Hi Tom!

Agree signing when you join the fray is good practice, but you're only
accountable for obeying the law.

By the way, I found Part 97, right where you said it would be.

Guess I couldn't find it for looking for it for a while there. Oh dear, next
thing is I'm likely to be called a sighted person, because aren't they the
only folks that do that? Hi hi.

73,
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 4:25 p.m.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: identification requirements/

Ron,
I don't often recall folks using partial call signs except very casually,
but I'm surprised Riley cleared it. Really too bad about the guy who got
himself canned over such a minor deal.

Shows how we start wars doesn't it.

Sure wish the FCC had found somebody of Riley's caliber to replace him.  The
current folks probably do their best but not having that real world presence
is a shame.

Tom Fowle WA6IVG

On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 09:56:59AM -0500, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
> 
> Sorry, part 97 says nothing about signing at the beginning of a 
> transmission. It is good practice to do so, but by law it is not required.
> 
> In addition, we had a controversy at a local club years ago concerning 
> whether it is OK to sign with a partial callsign on a repeater when 
> trying to break into a QSO.  One of the old timers said it wasn't.  He 
> was persistent about it, so we actually wrote to Riley Hollingsworth 
> and he wrote back stating definitively that it _was OK_ to do so.  The 
> old timer still persisted and this and other reasons actually resulted 
> in his removal from the club and repeater privileges.  He used to yell 
> 'illegal transmission' every time anyone signed on with a partial 
> callsign.  And after the Hollingworth directive was read over the 
> repeater net and he still wouldn't back off, he was canned.
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/1/2016 8:39 AM, Wayne Genz wrote:
> > Good morning Tom, I am a fairly new ham and I remember that the 
> > rules state you have to ID when you come up on frequency, every ten 
> > minutes, and at the end of the transmission when you sign. A wise 
> > man once told me that you could even sign at the end of each
transmission segment for good practice.
> > If you did this the ten minute rule would be covered in case you get 
> > a operator who gets a little long winded. I have found my self not 
> > remembering every ten minutes because the qso is going so well that 
> > breaking the conservation would ruin the flow. I also  just now 
> > remember that you should state the other stations call every couple 
> > of turns at the mike.  Wayne wa2usm
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: For blind ham radio operators 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 7:46 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: identification requirements/
> >
> > What is interesting is that, say in a contest, if a station  is 
> > responding to a CQ, the responding station often gives its call, and 
> > then after the station calling CQ gives its report, the responding 
> > station gives its report.  When responding to a contest CQ, I always 
> > used to put my call sign at the end of the transmission where I give 
> > my report, but no one seems to do that any more.  Then again, 
> > contest contacts are so short that it may not matter.
> >
> > Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: For blind ham radio operators 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
> > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 12:16 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: identification requirements/
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > As far back as I can remember, the only requirement for US hams as 
> > far as call sign identification is to state your call sign every ten 
> > minutes and at the end of your transmission.  By end of 
> > transmission, I mean just before you sign off.
> >
> >
> > On 1/31/2016 11:06 PM, Tom Fowle wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> Now I get to slightly embarrass my self.
> >> Are U.S. licensed hams still required to send both own call and 
> >> call of station with whom we're attempting to communicate both at 
> >> beginning and end of exchange? as well as every 10 minutes during long
qsos?
> >> TNX&73
> >> Tom Fowle WA6IVG
> >>
> >