Well Ron I congratulate you for the work you've done, because if you 
weren't there to point that out, then even if you'd only truly 
benefited one student, or a few, that is worth it.
take care!


Curtis Delzer.
HS.

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San Bernardino, CA.

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At 08:51 AM 12/17/12, you wrote:
>Guys, this scenario is not at all unusual. I taught here at Western
>Kentucky University for almost 30 years, and not once during that time did
>anyone ever consult with me regarding accessibility of anything, unless I
>found out ahead of time about what they were going to do and forced the
>consideration of accessibility into the decision making process. This
>includes computer and software changes in my office and the classrooms in
>which I taught. I fought that battle over and over for years. The
>unfortunate part is that rather than realizing that accessibility was an
>important consideration that needed to be in all of their decisions when it
>came to adopting new technologies, instead, they considered me as just a
>big pain in the ass. I suspect someone probably had a party celebrating my
>retirement for all the wrong reasons; not for my outstanding research and
>published articles or my excellent teaching or university service, but
>because I was retiring, and they were getting rid of that pain in the ass
>that insisted on their adopting accessible technologies! <lol>
>
>Ron, K8HSY
>
>
>
>
>At 11:16 AM 12/17/2012 -0500, Gary Tillinghast wrote:
> >Hi Tom,  In WNY the State BOH bought radios for all of the hospitals in WNY
> >and someone made the recommendation of the FT-8800r from Yasue.  They never
> >asked the EC's about their choice.  So when it is my turn to 
> due  NCS at the
> >hospital, I bring out my TM-V71A.  It is too bad they didn't ask for more
> >input.  Gary KB2YAA
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:55 PM
> >Subject: Re: In a state of disbelief here
> >
> >
> >Pat:
> >
> >We have a back-up EOC which has an IC706 Mark II. G., and a Kenwood TMD700A,
> >all with voice chips.
> >
> >I'm considering asking them to put the old stuff in the regular EOC, and put
> >the newer rigs in the back-up EOC.  Kind of backwards for sure, but hey, I
> >didn't order the new stuff!
> >
> >Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:26 PM
> >Subject: Re: In a state of disbelief here
> >
> >
> >> If there is a dual bander that fits your needs Tom, perhaps they
> >> would leave it available to you.  Then you have the best of both worlds.
> >> Pat, K9JAUAt 06:15 PM 12/15/2012, you wrote:
> >>>Hi, all
> >>>
> >>>Recently, in my region of west-central lower Michigan, the power that be
> >>>obtained an equipment grant to purchase all new equipment for our county
> >>>EOC's.  Sounds great, right???
> >>>
> >>>Well, for one thing, none of us as EC's were consulted on the rig and
> >>>other
> >>>equipment choices, so we ended up with rigs with which none of us were
> >>>familiar.
> >>>
> >>>But, here's the real kicker:
> >>>
> >>>Two of the rigs are the Icom IC2820 VHF/UHF dual-band radio, and the Icom
> >>>IC2200 2-meter radio.  Upon checking in the AES catalog, and calling AES
> >>>for
> >>>confirmation, it seems that these radios do not have a voice synthesizer
> >>>chip option.  If this is true, of course, the rigs will be of limited use
> >>>to
> >>>me as EC in the Emergency Operations Center, unless I have sighted
> >>>assistance with me at all times.
> >>>
> >>>Can someone verify for me that these rigs actually do not have a voice
> >>>chip
> >>>option??
> >>>
> >>>Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >>
> >
>Dr. Ronald E. Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University
>
>Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee
>Monthly Monetary Support Program (MMS) Committee