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Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:34:39 -0500
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Lou,

My friend with the TS-2000s probably does more DX VHF/UHF work than you or I 
or any ten hams we know, and he's never complained about the radio's 
insensitivity or noise.  At the same time, I can't refute the experiences 
you mention, so I have to believe there are some factors we're not seeing. 
Trouble is, there are so many people using the TS-2000, and I find it hard 
to believe that it would sell so well if it weren't a pretty good radio.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 14:47
Subject: Re: TS2000S -- Why the Critique


> Hi.
>
> I've compared notes with a couple of other TS2000S owners in the Rochester
> area, and my experiences seem to compare with theirs, so I don't think it
> is an isolated incident.
>
> What I do think is that the TS2000S is adequate for local VHF/UHF work--it
> is when you are trying for those weak signals in those far away grids 
> where
> the SSB signal is near the noise floor that you really see the differences
> between that radio and other radios like the TS790A.  I do also find that
> it is helpful to ride the RF GAIN control with this radio more so than 
> most
> other models that I've worked with.
>
> I want to emphasize that this is an issue for those that demand very high
> receiver performance--and it is still good by 1960s or 1970s standards. 
> In
> light of the Heath HW16 that I started with, the TS2000S looks pretty
> good.  I used to give anyone I could hear on 15 meters a RST599 report 
> with
> the HW16, because the HW16 was so stinking deaf on 15 meters that if I
> could hear them, they deserved a 599!
>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
> At 04:30 PM 2/2/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>>Lou,
>>
>>I'm surprised that you found problems with the 2000 on VHF and UHF.  A
>>friend of mine, who does VHF/UHF work almost exclusively, has two (yes,
>>count 'em, two) TS-2000s and loves them both.  I wonder if Kenwood has 
>>some
>>quality control issues with noisy receivers in that radio.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 14:59
>>Subject: TS2000S -- Why the Critique
>>
>>
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > The main reason why I lamb-basted Kenwood concerning the TS2000S is the
>> > receiver noise floor issue.  I didn't realize how bad it is until I
>> > started
>> > doing some rig to rig comparisons during the VHF contest, and 
>> > discovered
>> > that the Kenwood TS690 stomps the snot out of the TS2000S on 6 meters, 
>> > and
>> > the TS790A stomps the snot out of it on 2 meters and 70 cm.  I already
>> > knew
>> > the TS690 is quieter on HF, but the receiver sensitivity isn't as 
>> > critical
>> > as it is on VHF/UHF.
>> >
>> > My take on it is this.  In any rig that I buy, it is receiver 
>> > performance
>> > that I hold out for primarily.  Anybody can build a transmitter section
>> > that will do the job reasonably well--that isn't rocket science.  But 
>> > it
>> > is
>> > generally the receiver section that makes a rig exceptional or very 
>> > bad,
>> > because let's face it folks--you can't work 'em if you can't hear 'em.
>> >
>> > My point is that for the cost of the rqadio, I think Kenwood could have
>> > paid a little more attention to receiver noise, and for the length of 
>> > time
>> > that radio has been on the market, they could have come out with a 
>> > revised
>> > version, if they cared at all.  Or even if they had a more expensive
>> > version that provided a first class receiver, I'm the kind of operator
>> > that
>> > would spend the extra bucks to get something really good if it were in 
>> > my
>> > means to do so.  My take on the TS2000S is that it is a good radio for
>> > folks that do casual operation on a lot of different bands, but for
>> > someone
>> > who is looking for very good performance, it comes up short.
>> >
>> > That is my two cents worth.
>> >
>> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Louis Kim Kline
>> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5740
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
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