Regarding phones, cell phones verses land lines, etc., do any of you have
any of the services like Magic Jack? If so, how do you like it, and would
you recommend it to others?

Ron, K8HSY

At 08:46 PM 6/20/2013 -0400, Steve Dresser wrote:
>I don't ever intend to give up my landline phone; cell phones aren't all 
>that reliable, and the sound quality stinks for the most part.  To me, 
>having kids in the house is all the more reason to have a landline.
>
>Steve
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 15:56
>Subject: Re: Obama phones and the FCC
>
>
>> Most people I know with 2 cell providers it's because they have a personal
>> phone and a work phone. I would never have a land line phone if cell 
>> phones
>> worked in this house, and now with a little one around I suppose it's nice
>> for emergencies but I still find it one of the biggest annoyances since it
>> never is for me, and never rings at a convenient time. I much prefer 
>> people
>> contact me in a way I have control over like email or something because as
>> little as the phone rings it never once has ever been a convenient time. 
>> At
>> least the cell I can put them in voice mail and not listen to it ring for
>> long.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: Obama phones and the FCC
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I can see that some people benefit from Lifeline and in some circustances
>>> a cellphone.
>>> I have noticed, however, that some people end up having a cell phone from
>>> more than one provider.
>>> Maybe we should just encourage more landline phones so they would benefit
>>> the whole family when children are left alone if a mom just has a cell
>>> phone.
>>> Colleen Roth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
>>> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:57 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> track phone? more like crack phone hahahahahah
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Colin
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Zach Shifflett" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Obama phones and the FCC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I shouldn't even  respond to this message, as I don't want to feed
>>>> > trolls and spark debate on the list.  However, this being a ham hobby
>>>> > list, I'm not really sure how or why this post would be applicable
>>>> > here.
>>>> > I'm not making a political statement here, or saying I'm on one side
>>>> > or the other of this particular issue, but we're all just here to talk
>>>> > radio, blindness issues, and generally rag chew.  This seems, at least
>>>> > to me, to be a bit devisive.
>>>> > Just my two cents.
>>>> > Zach, KK4RUZ
>>>> >
>>>> > On 6/19/13, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> >>    =20
>>>> >> text of forwarded message follows:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   From: Hand In Hand <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   SOURCE: =
>>>> >>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343377/I-dont-care-Hidden-camera=
>>>> >>
comcatches-wireless-company-employees-passing-Obama-phones-people-say-theyl=
>>>> >> l-sell-drugs-shoes-handbags-spending-cash.html
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   =20
>>>> >>    =20
>>>> >>   Tuesday, Jun 18 201312PM 80=B0F3PMBLEHB=B0F 5-Day Forecast
>>>> >>   EXCLUSIVE: Hidden camera catches wireless company employees passing
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> out 'Obama phones' to people who say they'll SELL them for drugs,
>>>> >> shoes,
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> handbags and spending cash=20
>>>> >>     a.. The 'Lifeline' free-cell-phone scheme cost $2.2 BILLION last 
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> year alone, all of it from fees added to the phone bills of paying =
>>>> >> customers=20
>>>> >>     b.. The biggest beneficiary other than low-income consumers is =
>>>> >> billionaire Carlos Slim Helu, whose TracFone has collected $1.5
>>>> >> BILLION =
>>>> >> to date=20
>>>> >>     c.. One company told MailOnline it will fire a salesperson who =
>>>> >> laughed uproariously when a woman said she would sell her phone to 
>>>> >> buy
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> shoes=20
>>>> >>     d.. Conservative firebrand James O'Keefe sent undercover actors 
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> pose as 'Obama phone' seekers aiming to sell the goods; no one turned
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> them down=20
>>>> >>     e.. Legislation in Congress would remove the cell phone component
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> the program, which launched in 1984 and covered only land lines until
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> 2008=20
>>>> >>   By David Martosko In Washington
>>>> >>   PUBLISHEDCC02:01 EST, 18 June 2013| UPDATEDCC07:22 EST, 18 June 
>>>> >> 2013
>>>> >>    =20
>>>> >>   'If you're interested in learning - wanting to know how much the =
>>>> >> phone's worth, [I] recommend you go to any pawn shop1' this Stand Up 
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> Wireless worker told conservative activist James O'Keefe's undercover
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> plant. 'They'll be more than happy to tell you, OK"'
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   Undercover video shot in May by a conservative activist shows two =
>>>> >> corporate distributors of free cell phones handing out the mobile =
>>>> >> devices to people who have promised to sell them for drug money, to
>>>> >> buy =
>>>> >> shoes and handbags, to pay off their bills, or just for extra 
>>>> >> spending
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> cash.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   The 'Obama phone1' which made its ignominious YouTube debut outside
>>>> >> a =
>>>> >> Cleveland, Ohio presidential campaign event last September, is a
>>>> >> project
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> of the Federal Communications Commission's 'Lifeline' program, which 
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> makes land line and mobile phones available to Americans who meet =
>>>> >> low-income requirements.
>>>> >>   Lifeline was a $2.19 billion program in 2012.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   Recipients most commonly demonstrate their need by flashing an =
>>>> >> Electronic Benefits Transfer card to verify their eligibility for =
>>>> >> welfare payments, or by bringing tax statements to a phone
>>>> >> providerdd=20
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   The phones' legitimate purposes include poverty-level job
>>>> >> applicants' =
>>>> >> use as contact numbers for job interviews and emergency contacts for 
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> children of single parents.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   But when James O'Keefe, whose Project Veritas is a perennial thorn
>>>> >> in =
>>>> >> the side of progressive policymakers, sent an undercover actor into a
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> Stand Up Wireless location in Philadelphia, the man's stated purpose
>>>> >> was
>>>> >> =
>>>> >> to buy drugs.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   'Once you guys give me this phone, it's my phone"' he asked an =
>>>> >> employee inside a Philadelphia brick-and-mortal Stand Up Wireless =
>>>> >> location. 'I can, like, sell it and stuff"'
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   'Whatever you want to do with x1' the worker replied.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   'So I'm [going to] get some money for heroin1' he offered.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   The employee coolly responded, 'Hey, I don't judge.'
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> text of forwarded message ends:
>>>> >>
>>>
>> 
>
Dr. Ronald E. Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University
Ph: 270-782-9325 
Email: [log in to unmask]

Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee

Chair, American Council of the Blind's Monthly Monetary Support Program
(MMS) Committee

President: South Central Kentucky Council of the Blind (SCKCB)