Well, I have the TW-1 and another much older but very good device here that 
will change the pitch as you tune the antenna, lower the SWR, the higher the 
pitch of the tone. Since most of that stuff isn't made anymore, your best 
bet is probably an automatic tuner though I'd say if at any time you or 
anyone else comes in to a deal on the other units on the market, if you need 
it at the time or not, grab it and hold on to it tight because you never 
know when it will come in handy. that ni viking unit I have I used to use 
with my old FT-101E back when has been here ever since and I've never seen 
another one. Most would probably look at it and think it was some home made 
thing and chuck it, I got real lucky with mine that someone just happened to 
think it was what it was and tried it to make sure, then thought of me and 
let me have it for a dirt cheap price having no clue what it was worth. I 
know a couple people from this very list have made me some pretty attractive 
offers over the years when I mentioned having that unit. 10 times what I 
paid once but they're so hard to come by, when I'm an SK, it will become 
available. I have little doubt it will still work then too.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Cannon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Kenwood Ts-480S Was: deciding on an HT


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> How does one go about using a traditional tuner?  How do you know when 
> your
> SWR is a good match?
>
> Sorry for the newbie questions.  I've always wanted to get into HF, I've
> just never had the money until now.  Unfortunately, I still live in an
> apartment, so its going to be a bit of a problem until we move, and who
> knows when that will be.
>
> And while we're on the topic, does anyone know how feasible it is to work 
> HF
> from an apartment?  I do have a balcony and I am on the top floor if that
> helps. <g>
>
> Thanks all for your invaluable advice!
>
> Aaron
> KD6QPK
>
>
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> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Kenwood Ts-480S Was: deciding on an HT
>
>
>> Remember, I am an old fart.
>> The ts480 is a wonderful radio!!!!
>> I don't like internal tuners, because the antenna has to be relatively
>> close
>> to resonence.  They will extend the usable range of a resonnent antenna.
>> They are not very efficient because of their small size.
>> You youngsters seem to like no tuning no knobs to adjust, etc.  You are
>> probably right about that.  I just preffer my old mfj 989 which has a
>> roller
>> inductor, and will handle a killowatt.  Remember, I still use my Johnson
>> Valiant, which has to be tuned both at the drive and final output
>> sections.
>> What's a "pi network"?  You don't get anything above 6 meters with the
>> 480,
>> but from there on down, it's a great radio.
>> I have been trying unsuccessfully to get my d-104 to work on it.  The 
>> j-38
>> naturally works fine!
>>
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