Hi;
Although I could change my mind tomorrow, if I ground mount something the 
butternut is probably at the top of my list.  Curious how many radials you 
put down approximately.  I have also heard it can be a bear to tune.
Richard
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lowell Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: antenna info


Don't over look the Butternut 80 through 6 MTR vertical!
I have been using one for over 7 years and have put down radials in the
grass of the lawn.
I have worked the world with it and have even added the 160 MTR kit to it
and it works well also.
It is self-supporting having been in some pretty strong winds with no
problems.
There you are for what it is worth.
Best 73.
Lowell  W8QIY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:34 PM
Subject: antenna info


> Hi Everyone;
> I have spent the winter antenna browsing and I know less now than I did
> before.  At any rate,  I was initially looking for an hf vertical covering
> at least 40 through 10 (75 would be nice) that was a vertical dipole and
> didn't therefore require radials.
> I have eliminated the r8 (been through two al ready.  I also decided that
> because I had an amplifier that I was going to try and use I was going to
> stay away from the gap.  Took a look at force 12 and decided I wasn't
> going
> that route either.  Anyone know of any exciting options that are durable
> and
> really work?
> The second option was to go with something ground mounted and bite the
> bullet and put down radials.  I wanted self supporting though.  My initial
> thought was the steppir but its rather tall and I suspect not really all
> that self supporting.  The price was as much as a ts480 which was also a
> consideration.
> The other option is a "simple" g5rv but I need a 30 foot support for the
> center.  Unfortunately there isn't a convenient tree.
> We have had lots of wind the last few years and I don't really really want
> to worry about the thing coming down in the neighbors lawn.  I think we
> had
> about three wind storms that might have killed my r8.
> Its much cheaper to ask for suggestions prior to spending money.
> Richard
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