Hi
     If you have the bucks the out backer does out perform the hamstick. I 
have both.

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Mark
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: cheap easy apartment setup


> there's always a way. I know a guy running a ham stick dipole inside his
> apartment on 10 meters, I'm not sure I'd do it on that band, but if it's
> doable there it is on most bands. There's always the wire option, you can
> always experiment. Maybe use a low pass filter right off to prevent RFI if
> there would be any, but you can do it, there's always a way. I used to do
> all kinds of crazy antenna setups on vacations and stuff where I wasn't 
> sure
> about antenna restrictions or anything, I just wanted to be low profile.
> Last year with my Carolina bug catcher on the tripod, that was a little
> noticeable considering it took up 3/4 of the front yard because the yard 
> was
> so small, but everyone thought it was a bug zapper believe it or not. I 
> know
> people that run the outbacker and tripod setups on balconies outside
> apartments, it's really a case of how far you're willing to do, how much
> they'll let you do or how much you want to push it. If I couldn't get on 
> HF,
> I'd get out of radio completely but also, I'd never move anywhere I 
> couldn't
> put up at least something for HF. I do a little UHF and VHF, but if I
> couldn't get on HF and had no choice at all, no hiding antennas or 
> anything,
> that UHF and VHF stuff would be gone too, that alone would never hold my
> interest
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "matt v" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:23 PM
> Subject: cheap easy apartment setup
>
>
>> hi all,
>> I think the subject says what I am looking for.  I have done 2 meters =
>> and around here thats um..nothing to write about, but i was wanting to =
>> know what I could get on for bands without any really extravagant setups 
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>> that the managers might be pissed off with?I'm maybe chicken but I was =
>> thinking going as far as the ledge on the balcony(railing is wooden) but 
>> =
>> the problem with stringing a wire to trees would be its basically a play 
>> =
>> area too with a pool and stuff so, u know, i dont want to have anyone =
>> get more than their sceenery hurt.  any ideas?could i do hf at all?
>>
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