Hi!

Yep, it sounds good to me.

You can't rollerskate in the buffalo herd, but you can be happy if you've a
mind to, hi hi.

73,
Dave 

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Kenneth Son
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 2:03 p.m.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: A question about the Baofang hand helds and mobiles

Yep I love good discussions.

One funny twist to this some what related but not really.
This same salesman I sent him another inquiry about yet another radio they
sell in the catigory under business radios.
This is a company called BlackBox I think and the radio advertized on this
websight is a BlackBox base radio that sits on a desk or I think it can even
be hung on a wall.
Uhf it goes from 440 up to I think 470 or some where in that range.
Vhf covers the 2 meter band as well so it is a duel band radio advertized as
a business radio but it covers all the 2 meter ham band and the 440 to 450
uhf ham band.
This so called Business radio is front face programmable.
Really, It sounds like this radio would be a good little low power desk
radio.
It even comes with the little power unit to plug into the wall.
I even went over some of the detales of the radio like I did here so he
could look it up and know what I was talking about.
There is no telling what kind of an answer I will get if I get one at all.
You know I just love picking at sales people especially over the internet.
Oh well enough fun for now.
Kenneth Son kk4ql.

On 2/18/2016 19:26, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> Oh boy, what a can of worms you're opening.=20
>
> OK, first the easy thing. The salesman is full of beans, or perhaps = 
> other solids that are not beans. Of course a Part 90 radio can be 
> moved = into Amateur service. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous. Now 
> you can't = go the other way legally, from Amateur to Part 90.=20
>
> Next. Yes, some Baofeng handhelds were Part 90 certified, but there 
> are = arguments that they should not have been, owing to the fact that 
> many of = them cannot be set up so they are not field programmable. 
> Even so, some = are, whether they should be or not.=20
>
> Now we get to the fun bit. I know you were waiting for the fun bit.=20
>
> There were some Anytone radios that were purported to be certified 
> both = for Part 90 and Part 95, and would of course also work in the 
> Amateur = service. I believe, though cannot be certain, that these 
> radios were = short-lived, and may no longer be available. Conspiracy 
> theories as to = why abound, no doubt. Those were the only such radios 
> of which I am = aware. None of the other cheap Chinese handhelds can 
> *legally*, by the = letter of the law, be used on GMRS, and certainly 
> not on FRS. Having = said that, I suspect the FCC has better things to 
> do with its time than = go after people who are using them, nless 
> you're using them and being a = disruptive jerk while doing so. So 
> they may not be exactly legal, but if = you're not stupid and keep 
> your head down, who's going to know or care? = That's the argument 
> anyway, and I ain't got a dog in that fight.=20
>
> Vy 73,
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194=20
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Kenneth Son <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> =20
>> Hello to the list.
>> Can some one correct me if I am wrong?
>> I understand that the Baofang line of radios used in the part 97 =
> Amateur=20
>> Radio Service are also approved by the fcc for use in the part 90 
>> land=20= mobile services.
>> I have also been told that some of the baofang hand helds and 
>> mobile=20= radios can also legally work in the gmrs service.
>> Not family radio but the 8 channels for gmrs.
>> Am I mistaken?
>> Another comment.
>> Some one from a dealership of 2 way radios told me it was not legal 
>> to=20= move a part 90 business band radio into the ham bands.
>> =20
>> That sounds kind of funny to me.
>> I don't think the sailsman knew what he was talking about.
>> But then again, I may not know what I am talking about either but 
>> at=20= least I admit to it.
>> Just a question I have along with some comments.
>> Hope some one can help.
>> Kenneth Son kk4ql.