I once had a Kenwood TS-440. The antenna was a 20 foot wire connected to the center of a pl259. Nothing was connected to the outer ring. I ran it out the window to a wooden fence.  My friend made it for me so i could listen to the hf bands.  I thought lets see if it will tune up.  Seemed like the tuner in that thing could tune anything.  Worked all over. I do remember working Mexico from New Zealand. I think it was on 10 or 20m in around 1992.

73 
Scott
zl1chm / n0hok
Auckland New Zealand

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On 12/01/2012, at 12:40, John Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I'm in a mobile home park now and so far find as long as I go with 
> verticals, it's fitting alright. I may have to make one look like a flag 
> pole, but so far the dual bander is attached to the side of the front porch 
> on about 15 feet of mast, and if you look quick it looks like a support for 
> the onning that goes up a little too high. 900 MHz is in a corner in back, 
> again you can't see it unless you look for it and the people with the best 
> view are never home anyway. The HF vertical will go up when the ground thaws 
> again and will be ground mounted though for now I have a temporary setup on 
> the aluminum steps to the back porch, ham sticks is all that will be 
> basically and maybe my Carolina bug catcher, I haven't run the coax yet 
> around to my feed through panel but I'm getting there. It was run until I 
> changed everything around, it won't be great but should work reasonably 
> well. So far, visibility isn't too bad, and my lot is probably less than 
> that 35x120 you mentioned since I'm in a mobile home park. If it is that 
> big, just barely, figure either side of me I have a road on one side and I'm 
> maybe 8 feet off it, and the other side, I don't know where the property 
> line is but I know there's not more than 15 feet between us and the neighbor 
> who's never home, behind us is where there's room but how much I'm not sure, 
> my lot might be 120 feet long all totaled, width, property line to road, 
> maybe 35 feet. I wish there were trees for a wire but nope, vertical will be 
> alright though, maybe a small wire along my roof or something when I have 
> time to make one.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:46 PM
> Subject: antenna topics
> 
> 
>> Hi;
>> Just to investigate a new thread it might be interesting to know who
>> managed a usable hf antenna system on the smallest yard?  I definitely
>> have to make some changes come spring or put things on the market so
>> might get some good ideas from this thought.  My first home was on a lot
>> that was 35 by 120.  The good news was that things were set up so that a
>> tripod at the front of the house and a tripod on the garage worked
>> nicely for the dxdd.  We won't talk about the woman who threatened legal
>> action because of t v i.
>> -- 
>> richard 
>