Ed:
If the factory setting for the TS590 carrier is 50, that's probably why I
had that value in there in the first place.
I may back it down slightly, though, as others have suggested, just to be
safe when in CW mode.
I have been given many helpful suggestions here, but I'm now starting to
lean toward first reducing my mic gain, and using the foot switch for my
Heil mic, rather than the PTT button on the mic.
Would also like to take the ARB704 out of the circuit, but may not have the
proper cabling to operate the rig and amp directly together.
Will investigate that one,though, as well.
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Ed Malmgren
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Still troubleshooting my ocasional AL811 relay tripping issue
Tom, again I think the carrier level is out of play for ssb. There should
be no carrier when on ssb and the factory setting for that control is 50. I
think for A M you set it to maybe 50 so not to overheat your rig because
there is much more power consumed when on A M. So just disregard that for
ssb. 73 Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Dresser
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:38 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Still troubleshooting my ocasional AL811 relay tripping issue
Steve,
The fact that he's overdriving the radio might cause the amplifier to go
non-linear, in which case something might trip. Even if overdriving the
radio isn't causing the relay to trip, it might be a good idea to reduce the
mic gain a bit.
I'm also wondering about the PTT switch in his mic. I'd try using the
button on the front of the radio instead of any other switch, just to see if
the problem goes away. Changing mics at this point will just compound the
problem.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 14:02
Subject: Re: Still troubleshooting my ocasional AL811 relay tripping issue
> Tom,
>
> This may come as a shock to you, but "over" means "over". You are off
> the scale and overdriving. i doubt if this has anything to do with
> your amp problem, but you may want to back things down a bit.
>
> I don't think carrier level affects SSB, but I have mine set at 20. It
> varies by band, but at that setting I'll get at the most a couple of
> pips on the ALC meter (2,3,4) Other bands I get 1 or zero. This keeps
> the power spike under control on CW/FSK. At the least, you should have
> your XYL tell you where the sweet spot in the ALC range is by looking at
> the meter and try and keep things there.
>
>
> Getting the buffer out of line for a test is a good idea, but you would
> have to get a cable to connect to the 7 pin din. Try some of the
> other suggestions first. Be sure the control cable to the amp, buffer,
> and the din to the radio and buffer are all seated fully.
>
> 73, Steve KW3A
>
>
> On 3/12/2014 1:40 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
>> Bob:
>>
>> I'll do that.
>>
>> I know that at that level, the TS590 still says A over, though.
>>
>> I am not quite sure what that means.
>>
>>
>> To get it to stop giving me the A over reading, I have to drop the
>> carrier
>> all the way down to something like 13 or 14, which seems really strange
>> to
>> me.
>>
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Bob, K8LR
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:24 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Still troubleshooting my ocasional AL811 relay tripping
>> issue
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> another thought, try dropping your carrier control to 40, that might
>> help!
>>
>>
>> Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Still troubleshooting my ocasional AL811 relay tripping issue
>>
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>>
>>
>> As you may recall, I have a problem here where my AL811H amplifier relays
>> occasionally trip when I am transmitting, and I'm trying to figure out
>> why
>> it happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have checked all of my connections between the TS590, my ARB704 buffer
>> box, and the AL811, and they seem to be firmly in place.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm now starting to wonder if my amp relay tripping issue has something
>> to
>> do with my TS590 rig settings.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I think I said before, I use between 60 and 65 watts to drive the
>> amplifier, which, as far as I understand, is well within the limits
>> prescribed by Amaritron.
>>
>>
>>
>> I checked some other settings on the TS590, though, and wonder if one of
>> those is creating my problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Currently, I have my mic gain set at 50, and my carrier set at 50.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the PF2 button set for voice 2, which reads SWR and something else
>> when I press the meter switch button and transmit.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what that other function is, but I have noticed that when I
>> back the carrier way down to say 13, that other meter function says A 13
>> or
>> 14, rather than A "over" when I have the carrier set to 50.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm wondering if my carrier is set too high, and if I should back that
>> down
>> considerably.
>>
>>
>>
>> Over the week-end, when I get more time, I'm going to follow Kelvin's
>> earlier-posted procedure for determining the maximum input power for
>> driving
>> the AL811H, and hopefully, that will help further.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd appreciate any suggestions anyone might have for other things I might
>> try.
>>
>>
>>
>> And, if someone can clarify the alternate voice 2 meter function, that
>> would
>> be helpful as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>>
>>
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