The only certification for amateur gear of which I am aware is for amplifiers that work between 25 and [something, I forget], presumably to combat illegal CB gear or some such thing. Otherwise, the only certification for anything really sold in the US would be for Part 15, if anything (for unintentional radiators). Other than power amps though, there is no "part 97 certification".
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> On Feb 18, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> we are fortunate in Canada in that radios used in the amateur radio service
> do not require type acceptance by our government, that being Industry
> Canada.
> The radios must meet regulatory emitions when they are transmitting and that
> is all.
> So, any of the Chinese radios are perfect as long as they don't transmit
> spirius RF outside the ham band and meet requirements for harmonic
> interpherence...and with the acception of some of the early HT's and mobiles
> from more than 5 years ago, they all meet those emition standards now.
> I know the regulations in the US are slightly different, but they are
> regulations, and technicalities within much broader legislative documents
> which are designed to regulate a service rather than criminalize users or
> make specific equipment illegal within the amateur service.
> So while you can argue the legalese until your blue in the face, as amateurs
> we are responsible for operating our equipment in line with good and correct
> operating procedures and practices rather than getting entangled in small
> poorly understood or poorly defined technical regulatory matters.
> Few of us are lawyers, and so we are not expected to be able to interpret
> and be able to understand some vague or small technical detail of a
> regulation...we can operate our equipment ethically, and in line with
> amateur guide lines. It doesn't matter if the radio we are using was made
> in china and doesn't have a sticker on it...if it meets basic technical
> requirement to be used without harmful or purposeful interpherence to other
> amateurs or other licensed spectrums then it is perfectly fine to use.
> I have not heard of one single insident where a ham operator has been
> charged or other wise fined or criminalized for operating a radio that
> wasn't officially type accepted. That is out of 800 thousand hams in the
> US.
> How about all these home brew rigs that hams use? are they type accepted by
> the FCC? not at all. They are still legal...they are legal by the
> definition of not being built by a commercial entity being paid to do so,
> but the end result is precisely the same. Now operating out of band, or
> operating with more than the legal limit are different things because they
> do cause interpherence to other parts of the radio spectrum and to other
> amateur operators. However, even there, if you are operating 10,000 watts
> out in the middle of no where, and your stations transmitter is clean and
> doesn't cause anyone any interpherence, and you are a good operator not a
> jerk, you aren't doing anything criminal or wrong.
> If you operate 10K in the middle of New York City and blast everyones TV's
> and stereos and splatter all over the band and interphere with local AM
> broadcast stations, then obviously your going to get in trouble for it.
> If the posted speed limit on the highway is 65Mph, and you are doing 75 and
> driving properly and with care, your not going to get pulled over most of
> the time. If you are doing 60Mph in a 20MPH school zone, your going to get
> in trouble.
> The thing to remember in all this back and forth about radios being type
> accepted or legal or whatever, is that your not committing a criminal act if
> you do happen to use equipment that doesn't meet the exact letter of the
> regulations.
> There are pretty specific criminal acts that you can commit, using a
> non-type accepted radio is not one of them.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Son
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 4:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: A question about the Baofang hand helds and mobiles
>
> Hello to the list.
> Can some one correct me if I am wrong?
> I understand that the Baofang line of radios used in the part 97 Amateur
> Radio Service are also approved by the fcc for use in the part 90 land
> mobile services.
> I have also been told that some of the baofang hand helds and mobile
> radios can also legally work in the gmrs service.
> Not family radio but the 8 channels for gmrs.
> Am I mistaken?
> Another comment.
> Some one from a dealership of 2 way radios told me it was not legal to
> move a part 90 business band radio into the ham bands.
>
> That sounds kind of funny to me.
> I don't think the sailsman knew what he was talking about.
> But then again, I may not know what I am talking about either but at
> least I admit to it.
> Just a question I have along with some comments.
> Hope some one can help.
> Kenneth Son kk4ql.
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