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From:
Jim Gammon <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:24:04 -0800
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Ah come on, don't you know that Trump is the New Savior, yah 
right.  Sorry, just couldn't resist, guess it goes along with the 
subject, something about garbage on the list?? Jim WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Lester <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:14:50 -0500
Subject: Re: List Posting Garbage

Wow, we're just like the republican party, falling apart.  Sorry 
guys, I
couldn't resist.

Chuck wa8vmo

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From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:23 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: List Posting Garbage

 I don't know either.  I'll likely not subscribe to a new list.  
It
 becomes a problem, which list to post to, who does and doesn't 
move and
 73
 Butch
 WA0VJR
 Node 3148
 Wallace, ks.


 so forth.  yech!!!  On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Steve Forst wrote:

 We went through this a number of years ago.  After some never 
ending off
 topic  threads, someone started a new list just for ham topics.

    Soon after, someone (who I will call person A) posted an off 
topic
 message to the new list which  brought equally off topic replies 
from
 persons B through F.

 This upset the list owner so much that he publicly jumped all 
over
 person A with both feet, causing person A to unsubscribe from 
the new
 list.    The new list owner was so mad that he left his own 
list, and it
 languishes in the cyber backwaters until this day.

 I don't want to go through that again, and I really don't want 
to belong
 to 2 lists, with the inevitable double postings.

 I don't know what the answer is,and I'm not against a new list,  
but
 I'll wait and see  what direction things move.


 73, Steve KW3A
 On 2/29/2016 9:21 AM, Richard B.  McDonald wrote:
 Hi All!

 Generally, I agree with others that 1) the list admin should be 
given a
 reasonable amount of time to fix these pesky problems but that 
2) if
 these
 problems cannot be or do not get fixed then the list should 
move.  The
 list
 admin should participate in a change-over, if that becomes 
necessary.  A
 blanket email from him to the list alerting all to a change-over 
could
 be
 sent and then the entire data base of subscribers uploaded into 
the new
 list-serve - none of this requires positive consent by each 
subscriber.

 In fact, many here may have noticed that the JAWS user list 
recently did
 exactly this.  And, I believe the JAWS user list was previously 
on the
 same
 list serve that this list is presently on; and that it changed 
over to
 its
 current, new list serve because of administrative problems with 
that
 previous (i.e., this) list serve akin to the problems we see 
here and
 now.

 All that said, I seriously doubt that the problems we are having 
on this
 list are beyond repair.  It does, however, require a bit of 
focused,
 knowledgeable attention.

 73,
 Richard KK6MRH

 -----Original Message-----
 From: For blind ham radio operators
 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
 On Behalf Of Steve
 Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:05 PM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: List Posting Garbage

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 Bob, I  have noticed since Phil said his friend was going to 
help with
 how
 the list is configured, that the people posting with a lot of 
extraneous
 headers and characters has worsened.

 If people are interested, I'd be glad to set up this list on a 
different
 group server that is stable.  Since the ListAdmin of this list 
isn't
 really
 active, and therefore, since I don't have email addresses for 
the
 members,
 everyone would have to move their on their own volition.

 I've kind of thought about doing this for quite awhile, but 
didn't see
 any
 sense in duplicating the list.  But, since these issues keep 
festering
 and
 apparently won't be corrected, I'm leaning toward creating a 
list if
 people
 are interested.

 Steve, K8SP
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Bob Martin
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 5:09 PM
 Subject: My Earlier Posting Regarding ARRL ARES Newsletter


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