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Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:28:05 -0700
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Correct.

Phil.
K0NX




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerry Learry" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND


> So each element was drilled in 2 places so that it was held on by the 
> Clamp
> bolts?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>
>
>> Gerry,
>>
>> The X atop the capacity hat was created by using simple u clamps.  I
>> drilled
>> them originally to clamp around a boom from a 6 meter beam.  So they were
>> centered and I clamped on right above the other but at right angles so it
>> looked more like a wide spaced X.
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gerry Learry" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 4:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>
>>
>>> So how did you attach the horizontal elements to the tube?  Did you 
>>> drill
>>> through the tube at 2 apposing angles?  Did you flatten the center of 
>>> the
>>> two elements and screw them together?  The rest is easy for me to
>>> understand.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>>
>>>
>>>> Gerry,
>>>>
>>>> I was flying blind, sort of speak, by the seat of my pants, building
>>>> this
>>>> vertical and pieced together things I had picked up discussing antennas
>>>> with
>>>> other hams so don't feel bad about not getting how it was assembled.  I
>>>> made
>>>> the vertical antenna in two pieces in order to climb up to the roof on
>>>> my
>>>> tower bolted to the back of the house.  The antenna was bolted to the
>>>> other
>>>> end of the roof so I could get right to it as needed for fine tuning.
>>>> Right
>>>> about roof level, the first section stuck up, therefore about a foot or
>>>> two
>>>> over the peak of the roof.  The second section of antenna was made up 
>>>> of
>>>> three parts.  Two pieces of tubing, one short and one longer, and
>>>> between
>>>> the two was a coil form with wire wrapped around it.  It was insulated
>>>> wire
>>>> and I used about three feet of PVC tubing as my coil form.  The longer
>>>> piece
>>>> of tubing that served as the bottom of the assembly, I think it was 7
>>>> feet
>>>> of aluminum tubing, I stuck up inside the bottom of the PVC pipe the
>>>> wire
>>>> was wound around, or coiled, around.  It was wrapped closely, like a
>>>> bull
>>>> constrictor snake, because the wire, as I mentioned, was insulated and 
>>>> I
>>>> was
>>>> only running 100 watts.  So that insured there would be no arking when
>>>> transmitting.  If you run higher levels of power, it is best to use
>>>> coax,
>>>> the heavier the better, based upon the power, because the voltage is
>>>> very
>>>> high on the coil when transmitting.  Next, I took another 3 foot length
>>>> of
>>>> aluminum tubing and stuck it inside the top of the pvc pipe.  The pvc
>>>> pipe
>>>> was big enough so I could drill into the tubing and the pvc pipe to 
>>>> hold
>>>> the
>>>> bottom tubing and the top tubing to the pipe or coil of wire.  This is
>>>> all
>>>> vertical so far.  The signal, therefore, had to pass through the coil
>>>> before
>>>> getting above the pvc pipe to the top hat, which was the difference
>>>> between
>>>> 32 and about 130 feet; which is a quarter wave on 160 meters.  About 98
>>>> feet
>>>> of coil wire in other words.  The horizontal part of the top hat is 
>>>> also
>>>> aluminum tubing whereby I used simple hardware clamps to clamp them in
>>>> the
>>>> shape of the letter X at the top of everything, that is, at the very 
>>>> tip
>>>> of
>>>> the tubing.  The reason I made the whole top assembly separate, was so 
>>>> I
>>>> could climb the roof, walk over to the vertical clamped to the end of
>>>> the
>>>> peak of the roof, and loosen another clamp which held the whole top
>>>> assembly
>>>> in place.  Once I put the X on top, I didn't have to raise or lower the
>>>> top
>>>> assembly more than once or twice to get the antenna to resonate where I
>>>> wanted it in the CW portion of 160 meters.  It was fun making it, I
>>>> learned
>>>> a lot, and from that time on, when I put up a bigger tower that same
>>>> year
>>>> but in this house we bought that year, I really got into all kinds of
>>>> wires
>>>> and loops and shunt feeding my tower, and trying phased verticals and
>>>> wire
>>>> antennas.
>>>>
>>>> Phil.
>>>> K0NX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Gerry Learry" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:53 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't understand how it is assembled or connected to the top of the
>>>>> antenna.  I understand that the two elements are in a X pattern and
>>>>> they
>>>>> are
>>>>> both horizontal, but I don't understand the mechanics.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What specifically were you asking about as far as the capacity hat is
>>>>>> concerned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>> K0NX
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Gerry Learry" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:39 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you describe the construction of the top hat a little more?
>>>>>
>>>
> 

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