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Sina Bahram <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:22:17 -0500
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I can't agree more, any of us are willing to setup a new list.

Just let us know the sign up address if someone has already done it.


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-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:17 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: List Posting Garbage

	If he hasn't set one up, I have. ... It's ready for use =
immediately if people want it. Anyone wants details, let's go....


--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194=20
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: [log in to unmask]




> On Feb 29, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Jim Shaffer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>=20
> Steve, please go ahead and set up the new list.  The list admin has =
had=20
> plenty of time to fix the issue, and, in my opinion, is inexcusably =
absent.=20
> This is the poorest administered list I've ever been on, and it's time 
> =
to=20
> call a spade a spade, and make a move.
> --
> Jim Shaffer, KE5AL
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Richard B. McDonald
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:21 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: List Posting Garbage
>=20
> Hi All!
>=20
> Generally, I agree with others that 1) the list admin should be given 
>=
a
> reasonable amount of time to fix these pesky problems but that 2) if =
these
> problems cannot be or do not get fixed then the list should move.  The 
> =
list
> admin should participate in a change-over, if that becomes necessary.  
> =
A
> blanket email from him to the list alerting all to a change-over could 
> =
be
> sent and then the entire data base of subscribers uploaded into the =
new
> list-serve - none of this requires positive consent by each =
subscriber.
>=20
> In fact, many here may have noticed that the JAWS user list recently =
did
> exactly this.  And, I believe the JAWS user list was previously on the 
> =
same
> list serve that this list is presently on; and that it changed over to 
> =
its
> current, new list serve because of administrative problems with that 
> previous (i.e., this) list serve akin to the problems we see here and 
> =
now.
>=20
> All that said, I seriously doubt that the problems we are having on =
this
> list are beyond repair.  It does, however, require a bit of focused,  
>knowledgeable attention.
>=20
> 73,
> Richard KK6MRH
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: List Posting Garbage
>=20
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>=20
> Bob, I  have noticed since Phil said his friend was going to help with 
>=
how
> the list is configured, that the people posting with a lot of =
extraneous
> headers and characters has worsened.
>=20
> If people are interested, I'd be glad to set up this list on a =
different
> group server that is stable.  Since the ListAdmin of this list isn't =
really
> active, and therefore, since I don't have email addresses for the =
members,
> everyone would have to move their on their own volition.
>=20
> I've kind of thought about doing this for quite awhile, but didn't see 
>=
any
> sense in duplicating the list.  But, since these issues keep festering 
> =
and
> apparently won't be corrected, I'm leaning toward creating a list if =
people
> are interested.
>=20
> Steve, K8SP
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Martin
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 5:09 PM
> Subject: My Earlier Posting Regarding ARRL ARES Newsletter
>=20
>=20
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>=20
> I just looked at it and it is a mess; MINE format or something like 
>=3D  that.  Have no idea how that happened as I don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t 
>thing I =
have =3D
> changed any settings lately. Does anyone have a clue. Several months 
> =3D=

> ago, I did make a font change to eliminate lots of equal signs in my 
> =3D=

> email.
> 73:
> Bob Martin
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>I&nbsp; have noticed =
since Phil =3D
> said his=3D20
> friend was going to help with how the list is configured, that the =3D
> people=3D20
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#08000a>If people are interested, I'd be glad to 
> =
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> ListAdmin of=3D20 this list isn't really active, and therefore, since 
> I don't have email =
=3D
> addresses=3D20
> for the members, everyone would have to move their on their own =3D
> volition.&nbsp;=3D20
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#08000a></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#08000a>I've kind of thought about doing this for 
> =
=3D
> quite awhile,=3D20
> but didn't see any sense in duplicating the list.&nbsp; But, since =
these =3D
> issues=3D20
> keep festering and apparently won't be corrected, I'm leaning toward 
> =3D=

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> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#08000a>Steve, K8SP</FONT></DIV> <DIV 
> style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=3D20 <DIV 
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<A=3D20
> [log in to unmask] href=3D3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Bob 
> =3D Martin</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A 
> [log in to unmask]
> =
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> RG</A>=3D20
> </DIV>
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