Hi.
Not in this case--I have a Kenwood TS690S sitting on the bench right beside
it and if I switch the antenna from the TS2000S to the TS690S, it will
invariably be less "hissy" on the TS690S. It isn't really as much of a
sensitivity problem as it is an intelligibility problem because the
receiver just has extraneous noise riding on the incoming signals. It's
one of the reasons why I keep multiple rigs for the same frequency
ranges--it helps to evaluate when a piece of equipment isn't quite so hot
as opposed to just lousy receiving conditions.
73, de Lou K2LKK
At 12:47 AM 2/10/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Steve & Everyone;
>
>I agree completely with you.
>
>Both the TS-2000 and, the TH-F6A are two excellent radios.
>
>A lot of receiver noise is generated mechanically. Whether it comes from
>line noise or home appliances or the electrical system in your home.
>
>Plus, there are a lot more products out there that generate RF.
>
>Products such as cordless phones and, computers.
>
>And, even if stray RF is not the issue, a lot of electrical systems are
>overloaded today.
>
>They are just my thoughts.
>
>73 De Anthony W2AJV
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:34 PM
>Subject: Re: TS2000S -- Why the Critique
>
>
> > Lou,
> >
> > My friend with the TS-2000s probably does more DX VHF/UHF work than you or
> > I
> > or any ten hams we know, and he's never complained about the radio's
> > insensitivity or noise. At the same time, I can't refute the experiences
> > you mention, so I have to believe there are some factors we're not seeing.
> > Trouble is, there are so many people using the TS-2000, and I find it hard
> > to believe that it would sell so well if it weren't a pretty good radio.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 14:47
> > Subject: Re: TS2000S -- Why the Critique
> >
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> I've compared notes with a couple of other TS2000S owners in the
> >> Rochester
> >> area, and my experiences seem to compare with theirs, so I don't think it
> >> is an isolated incident.
> >>
> >> What I do think is that the TS2000S is adequate for local VHF/UHF
> >> work--it
> >> is when you are trying for those weak signals in those far away grids
> >> where
> >> the SSB signal is near the noise floor that you really see the
> >> differences
> >> between that radio and other radios like the TS790A. I do also find that
> >> it is helpful to ride the RF GAIN control with this radio more so than
> >> most
> >> other models that I've worked with.
> >>
> >> I want to emphasize that this is an issue for those that demand very high
> >> receiver performance--and it is still good by 1960s or 1970s standards.
> >> In
> >> light of the Heath HW16 that I started with, the TS2000S looks pretty
> >> good. I used to give anyone I could hear on 15 meters a RST599 report
> >> with
> >> the HW16, because the HW16 was so stinking deaf on 15 meters that if I
> >> could hear them, they deserved a 599!
> >>
> >> 73, de Lou K2LKK
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 04:30 PM 2/2/2008 -0500, you wrote:
> >>>Lou,
> >>>
> >>>I'm surprised that you found problems with the 2000 on VHF and UHF. A
> >>>friend of mine, who does VHF/UHF work almost exclusively, has two (yes,
> >>>count 'em, two) TS-2000s and loves them both. I wonder if Kenwood has
> >>>some
> >>>quality control issues with noisy receivers in that radio.
> >>>
> >>>Steve
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 14:59
> >>>Subject: TS2000S -- Why the Critique
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hi.
> >>> >
> >>> > The main reason why I lamb-basted Kenwood concerning the TS2000S is
> >>> > the
> >>> > receiver noise floor issue. I didn't realize how bad it is until I
> >>> > started
> >>> > doing some rig to rig comparisons during the VHF contest, and
> >>> > discovered
> >>> > that the Kenwood TS690 stomps the snot out of the TS2000S on 6 meters,
> >>> > and
> >>> > the TS790A stomps the snot out of it on 2 meters and 70 cm. I already
> >>> > knew
> >>> > the TS690 is quieter on HF, but the receiver sensitivity isn't as
> >>> > critical
> >>> > as it is on VHF/UHF.
> >>> >
> >>> > My take on it is this. In any rig that I buy, it is receiver
> >>> > performance
> >>> > that I hold out for primarily. Anybody can build a transmitter
> >>> > section
> >>> > that will do the job reasonably well--that isn't rocket science. But
> >>> > it
> >>> > is
> >>> > generally the receiver section that makes a rig exceptional or very
> >>> > bad,
> >>> > because let's face it folks--you can't work 'em if you can't hear 'em.
> >>> >
> >>> > My point is that for the cost of the rqadio, I think Kenwood could
> >>> > have
> >>> > paid a little more attention to receiver noise, and for the length of
> >>> > time
> >>> > that radio has been on the market, they could have come out with a
> >>> > revised
> >>> > version, if they cared at all. Or even if they had a more expensive
> >>> > version that provided a first class receiver, I'm the kind of operator
> >>> > that
> >>> > would spend the extra bucks to get something really good if it were in
> >>> > my
> >>> > means to do so. My take on the TS2000S is that it is a good radio for
> >>> > folks that do casual operation on a lot of different bands, but for
> >>> > someone
> >>> > who is looking for very good performance, it comes up short.
> >>> >
> >>> > That is my two cents worth.
> >>> >
> >>> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Louis Kim Kline
> >>> > A.R.S. K2LKK
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> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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