a scinical view point...what do you bass your opinion on? I can't think of
any where you may have seen this kind of situation before?
Everything goes up in price, that's true, but you speak as if you have seen
radios made before that were very cheap and went very high in price...with
the acception of the vintage collecters market, where is this the case?
Kenwoods, yaesu's and icoms have always been expensive to buy, that hasn't
changed.
If wouxun begins to take over some market share from the big 3, perhaps
they'll add an upper line or something, but it'll still be far less price
wize than anything currently offered by the big 3 in any of their model
lines.
the Chinese consumer electronics industry has had about 30 years of
consistent time to show it's hand if it were going to play games like that,
the way allot of american and european manufacturers do.
They just don't...when a product is released, from a chinese bassed
manufacturer, and not an american, canadian etc bass company who gets stuff
made in china, they usually keep it at that price point throughout the run
of that product. If it's from a company that just outsources to china, then
yes, you see those price increases all the time, but not typically from the
chinese bassed places.
Oh, and Michael, sometimes you can find microphone plug adapters that will
change the Yaesu pin out to a standard kenwood pinout for use with kenwood
radios...you can get them for the kenwood mikes to work on Yaesu radios as
well...
73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Yaesu Mic on a Kenwood
> Give them time, the Chinese radios will be just as much as all the rest
> before you know it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Yaesu Mic on a Kenwood
>
>
>> the DSP technology in the ts570 is way way more than 10 years old.
>> The DSP technology in the ts2000 is more than 11 years old at this point
>> since I think they proto typed the ts2K in the late '90's, probably 98/99
>> before they released it in 2000.
>> the ts570 has been around allot longer than the ts2000...not sure exactly
>> when the 570 was released, but it was at least 15 years ago, likely
>> longer
>> than that.
>> I was having a conversation with a few local hams about this exact
>> thing...how technology in the ham radio industry hasn't changed a whole
>> lot
>> in about 10 to 15 years.
>> And, the big 3 are still charging huge amounts of money for new radios
>> that
>> use the same older technology in them such as DSP circuits and general
>> functions and features.
>> This is why I am really looking forward to the products designed by
>> companies like Wouxun and others...they will have the tradditional
>> technology, but will also be far more willing to implement brand new
>> stuff
>> into their radios and products without charging twice as much for the new
>> features like the big 3 like to do.
>> It would be like apple releasing an old '90's style flip phone, with blue
>> tooth, and charging double for it because it's an apple product and has
>> some newer technology in it...that is what is happening in the ham radio
>> industry...we are still getting radios that have the same features, and
>> functions, and similar design and circuitry as what was availible 15
>> years
>> ago.
>> And anything that does have newer or improved design features is hugely
>> expensive...see the IC7800 and radios in it's class.
>> They add some more functions via the micro processer, throw a few more
>> knobs
>> and buttons and connecters into the thing and charge 11 grand for it.
>> the radio probably costs 200 bucks to build.
>> So, companies like wouxun, will take all the best features, and combine
>> them
>> into a classy looking, desirable rig and charge 500 for it and still make
>> a
>> big proffit.
>>
>> There are rumblings about wouxun coming out with an HF rig in the not too
>> distant future...I can't wait to see that.
>> Give the big 3 a real run for their money hi.
>> Something that is say similar to the IC7000 or FT857 for half or a third
>> of
>> the price.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Ryan" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:05 PM
>> Subject: Yaesu Mic on a Kenwood
>>
>>
>>> Hi all:=20
>>>
>>> Ordered my new antenna today and I've been thinking about a backup plan,
>>> =
>>> should my FT-450 don't tune my G5RV and the TS-570 does.=20
>>> Would it be safe to use my MD-100A8X desk mic on the 570? =20
>>> I've been also thinking that I'd have to unload the FT-450 as it =
>>> wouldn't be suitable for an HF remote.=20
>>> I wouldn't install it as a mobile because that would require some more =
>>> expense, plus it would have to be professionally installed, under the =
>>> terms of our agreement with our car's company,=20
>>> plus there isn't much room for the 450 in the car. =20
>>> I hope it doesn't come to that because I love the 450 and having tested
>>> =
>>> it for almost a year now, I think for the price, its one of the best =
>>> performing rigs in its class.=20
>>> It out performs the 570 as well. Course, the 570's DSP system is 10 year
>>> =
>>> old technology, which is why the 590 was released last year.=20
>>> It probably performs better than the FT-450 but its also twice as
>>> much.=20=
>>>
>>> =20
>>>
>>> 73:=20
>>>
>>> Michael De VO1RYN=20
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