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Ron Canazzi <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Richard,

I have suggested this change numerous times and received nothing but a 
stony silence from the moderators.  I think if some enterprising list 
manager wants to do it, he should just do it and notify all the member 
via this list and then everyone could subscribe to the new list.


On 2/29/2016 9:21 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> Generally, I agree with others that 1) the list admin should be given a
> reasonable amount of time to fix these pesky problems but that 2) if these
> problems cannot be or do not get fixed then the list should move.  The list
> admin should participate in a change-over, if that becomes necessary.  A
> blanket email from him to the list alerting all to a change-over could be
> sent and then the entire data base of subscribers uploaded into the new
> list-serve - none of this requires positive consent by each subscriber.
>
> In fact, many here may have noticed that the JAWS user list recently did
> exactly this.  And, I believe the JAWS user list was previously on the same
> list serve that this list is presently on; and that it changed over to its
> current, new list serve because of administrative problems with that
> previous (i.e., this) list serve akin to the problems we see here and now.
>
> All that said, I seriously doubt that the problems we are having on this
> list are beyond repair.  It does, however, require a bit of focused,
> knowledgeable attention.
>
> 73,
> Richard KK6MRH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: List Posting Garbage
>
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> Bob, I  have noticed since Phil said his friend was going to help with how
> the list is configured, that the people posting with a lot of extraneous
> headers and characters has worsened.
>
> If people are interested, I'd be glad to set up this list on a different
> group server that is stable.  Since the ListAdmin of this list isn't really
> active, and therefore, since I don't have email addresses for the members,
> everyone would have to move their on their own volition.
>
> I've kind of thought about doing this for quite awhile, but didn't see any
> sense in duplicating the list.  But, since these issues keep festering and
> apparently won't be corrected, I'm leaning toward creating a list if people
> are interested.
>
> Steve, K8SP
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Martin
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 5:09 PM
> Subject: My Earlier Posting Regarding ARRL ARES Newsletter
>
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> I just looked at it and it is a mess; MINE format or something like =
> that.  Have no idea how that happened as I don=E2=80=99t thing I have =
> changed any settings lately. Does anyone have a clue. Several months =
> ago, I did make a font change to eliminate lots of equal signs in my =
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> 73:
> Bob Martin
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a>If people are interested, I'd be glad to set =
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a>I've kind of thought about doing this for =
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a>Steve, K8SP</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
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