Hi Mary Christina,  J. Bryan is right on this one.  I am so old I had to
walk two miles up hill to school and back--BOTH WAYS!!!!!  And shovel coal
into the furnace when I got there.  Ruth



At 2:41 PM 11/12/99, J. Bryan Blundell wrote:
>Caver Chris:
>
>You will realize sometime, far into the future, that the younger generation
>never had it a rough as those who have gone before. Age is a badge of honor you
>get to wear and it allows you to give, anyone younger, shit and pull their
>legs.  So just remember that any thing you have had to work for, we had to work
>even harder and still did not have as much. So lets keep the right perspective
>here.
>
>The Ancient Ones
>
>PS: Congratulations on all of your efforts.
>
>
>
>Mary Christina Manning wrote:
>
>> I'M OFFENDED!  OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN A GOOD LOOK AT ALL COLLEGE
>> STUDENTS, BECAUSE YOUR STEREOTYP SURE DOESN'T FIT ME.
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Ralph Walter wrote:
>>
>> Speaking as a longtime habitue' of college towns: You better believe it!
>>
>> The old-time model of an undergraduate student who sleeps in a crowded
>> dorm or barracks and washes dishes to put him or herself through school:
>> not any more.
>>
>> Among other things, it is no longer physically possible for an 18-year-old
>> to earn enough money from part-time wages to cover tuition and expenses,
>> unless he or she earns hundreds of dollars an hour.
>>
>> THIS PART AT LEAST IS TRUE.
>>
>> Further, the students nowadays, even at state schools like Michigan and
>> Michigan State, come from affluent backgrounds and have no patience for
>> the military-style deprivation that past generations of college students
>> tolerated.
>>
>> I HAVE PAID FOR EVERY SINGLE CENT OF MY EDUCATION, LIVING EXPENSES, AND
>> TRANSPORTATION EVER SINCE I TURNED 18.  MY HOUSE IN OHIO IS NOT
>> AIR-CONDITIONED, HAS NO DISHWASHER, HAS NO CLOTHES WASHER OR DRYER, HAS ONLY
>> 1 TELEPHONE, NO CABLE, AND NO INTERNET ACCESS.  COMPARED TO THAT, THESE
>> 10'x15' DORM ROOMS ARE A LUXURY, EVEN THOUGH THE RESIDENT HALL I STAY IN HAS
>> NO AIRCONDITONING AND NO CABLE EITHER.
>>
>> Today, it would be an exceptional college junior who doesn't have a nice
>> car, a Pentium-class computer with laser printer and scanner, a private
>> apartment, a cellphone, not to mention all the ordinary technological
>> bric-a-brac like a stereo, a microwave oven, a telephone answering
>> machine, a large screen color TV, etc., etc.
>>
>> I BOUGHT MY '89 DODGE DYNASTY WITH MY OWN HARD-EARNED MONEY.  MONEY FROM MY
>> NUMEROUS JOBS, STARTING AT AGE 14 IN A GARDEN CENTER AND CONTINUING THROUGH
>> HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE AS A WAITRESS, DAYCARE WORKER, AND LIBRARIAN.  BOTH
>> MY CAR AND MY INSURANCE POLICY ARE IN MY NAME.  MY COMPUTER WAS A
>> GRADUATION/CHRISTMAS/BIRTHDAY GIFT FROM MY PARENTS AND DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY
>> TYPE OF PRINTER OR SCANNER.
>>
>> You don't have to be very old to remember a time when the average college
>> student had *none* of those things.
>>
>> Sign me,
>> Washed Dishes in College
>>
>> THROUGH HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION, I HAVE MANAGED TO PAY FOR EVERY
>> NECESSITY EXCEPT HEALTH INSURANCE.  I HAVE DONE WELL ENOUGH IN SCHOOL,
>> DESPITE LONG HOURS AT VARIOUS JOBS, TO EARN A FULL-TUITION SCHOLARSHIP TO
>> SOUTHEAST MISSOURI STATE UNIVERSITY, AS WELL AS SIX SMALL INDEPENDANT
>> SCHOLARSHIPS.  YET, I CONTINUE TO WORK TO EARN MONEY FOR GAS, AUTO INSURANCE
>> AND REPAIRDS, FOOD, CLOTHES, MINIMAL MEDICAL EXPENSES, AND OTHER
>> EXPENDITURES.
>>
>> I FEEL IT IS UNFAIR TO JUDGE GENERATION X BY A FEW INDIVIDUALS.  WE AREN'T
>> ALL IRRESPONSIBLE, SPOILED BRATS.  SOME OF US HAVE LEARNED THE VALUE OF HARD
>> WORK.
>>
>> CAVER CHRIS ^V^
>>
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Ruth (HOUGHTON) BARTON
Westminster,Vermont, USA
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