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"Marques, Jorge" <[log in to unmask]>
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The philosophy, work & influences of Noam Chomsky
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Oh, for God's sake. Have you actually read any Chomsky? No, I don't have a low  opinion of the general population. But I do think the state and the mass media do a lot to keep them in line--to keep everyone separate and to prevent collective organizing
and action.

And history has repeatedly shown just how powerful the people are when they decide to act collectively and revoke the authority given to the state: India, Poland, the Phillipines, Iran, Czechoslovakia, Romania, East Germany, Indonesia...

As far my personal situation, how the hell would you know what I am or am not doing?

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin William Smith [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [CHOMSKY] Anarchism and Chomsky


Marques, Jorge writes:
> Quite the opposite. Chomsky has also made the point that no matter
> the nature of the state its power is ALWAYS derived from the
> people. If the population were to withdraw its consent, en masse,
> the state, no matter how repressive, could not withstand it.
>
> Once the authority of the coercive state has been revoked, it could
> no longer protect unjust structures and they too would
> disappear. The only social structures remaining would be those that
> had the consent of the people.

You're talking about this as if it is anatural thing.  But it isn't a
natural thing because it isn't happening.  Or, if it is a
natural thing, then you have a very low opinion of the general
population, who are clearly too stupid to know what's good for them.

You're also talking about this asif it is somehow separate from you.
You are watching this travesty from outside; you aren't really part of
it because you are good, and they are bad.  But the truth is you are
part of the system you condemn.  You support that system, and so do
the rest of us peasants who are too stupid to know what is really in
our own self-interest.  Or do you really not own anything manufactured
by a corporation that can't justify its structure?  Do you really not
eat any food produced by a corporation that can't justify its
structure?  Do you somehow avoid paying taxes to a coercive
government?

martin

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