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I think plain, naked, fresh-as-the-dickens sashimi has lots of taste!
Anyone else think so?  That anyone would say different surprises me.  But
then I did test out as a "supertaster", so maybe that has something to do
with it.

C


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gary Orlando
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: RAF
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> > 1. raw meat does not taste like much of anything at all.
> > (perhaps the mouth sensation, or feeling of fullness is pleasurable)
>
> >I see that you didn't have much experience with it because i
> know a lot of
> vegan who experience it as very distatefull. they complain about the smell
> there is a contradictions here between the 2 experiences ..
> either your experience have been with too fresh meat that are not
> palatable
> ( don't have that much taste ) to non carnivorous animals , or you have a
> zinc deficiency that makes the sense of taste dull .
> try some liver and tell me if it doesn't taste something .
>
> I'm uncertain as to what you are saying, j-c.
> Are you saying that it better to eat meat that is not fresh?
> My sense of taste does not seem dulled, but it's possible...
> What I'm referring to is sashimi (tuna, yellow tail), and it is as
> fresh as I'm going to find (from an oriental sushi bar),
> unless I catch the fish myself.
>
> >
> > 2. this assumption of meat being "perfectly digested", I find not
> > true,
> > and certainly not supported by any literature that I'm aware of.
> > The usual quotes about 98% digestibility of meat, as compared to 80%
> > digestibility
> > of veggies, or fruit, are absurd, since the difference can be explained
> by
> > the indigestible fiber.
>
> >makes sens meats have less fibers than vegetables or fruits .
> >there is not that much litterature anyway about the digestibility of raw
> >meats .
>
> yes, it makes sense,, but it means nothing.
> fiber is necessary.
>
> >
> > 3. "Causes no troubles at all", is a generalization, which is not true
> > in my case.  My occasional forays into raf (fish), have shown me that
> > it is not "perfectly digested", and in addition may cause muscular
> tension
> > for various reasons.
> >how did you get shown that ?
> >It fit with the experience of many vegans who loose the ability
> to secrete
> chloridric acid in sufficient quantity to digest meats ( have to do with B
> 12 insufficiency, intrinsic factor etc...)
>
> there's no way to know my hcl status, but my digestion seems fine as far
> as I can tell.  I didn't say I didn't digest it, I would say that
> it does not digest as well as fruit.
>
>
> > That said, I think the continuing arguments here about raf are
> pointless.
> >
> > If you want it, eat it.
> > But let's not kid ourselves about "digestibility".  I "digested" just
> about
> > everything when I was a mixed, cooked
> > food eater.
>
> >so how come ,you say that meat are not well digested ?
>
> I am merely pointing out that the common statements about meat being
> "well-digested" are groundless and may be incorrect.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
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