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Bergesons <[log in to unmask]>
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The philosophy, work & influences of Noam Chomsky
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> Here's a thought exercise for you. Don't strain yourself. Suppose
> old Andrej
> were German, and every post to this list was some variant of attempt to
> "prove" the gas chambers were just an invention of the Jewish media to
> defame the good Germans.

I have not read a single post claiming that the mass graves were an
invention of the NATO state's media.  Surely contending that the, surely
horrific, 2,000+ dead (or even projected 10,000 dead) figures differ rather
dramatically from the Holocaust figures is not controversial.  Do you think
that the crimes in Kosovo are comparable to Nazi crimes in Europe?

Suppose further that he claimed that the real
> victims of WWII were Germans, and he wept piteous tears over damaged
> schoolbuildings.

It seems reasonable to me that anti-Milosevic organizers/activists who were
bombed in violation of international law have a legitimate gripe, just as
rural Kosovars who were executed or driven out of their homes have a
legitimate gripe.

Suppose still further that signs of open dissent towards
> Nazi goals among Germans was virtually nonexistent as he was making these
> posts.

Well, on this I am not very well informed, but I know that dissent was quite
active in the pre-bombing days (quickly silenced after March 24), and I
believe that it is on the rise again.  Are you saying that dissent was
(pre-March 24) or is (December 99) non existent?

> You know, Tony, old boy, Rush and his ilk are right about one thing:
> whenever a Leftie starts losing an argument, he pulls out the race card.

I'm afraid that you, Tresy, pulled the race card here.  Referring to the
Serbs as "a people" "who were (and remain) unrepentant aggressors" is
pulling out the race card.  Addressing people (let alone "a people") as
lickspittle is racist.  It shouldn't detract from the illogic of your other
points, however.  Surely that kind of language has no useful purpose, does
it?

Soren

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