Hi Jean-Claude,

> that is the real enthusiasm that was talking about there is great joy at
> exploring a new way of being in the experience itself . Yound peoples can
> become cynical ( i worked with delinquant teenagers ) when they lose the
> confidence that enthusiasm can bring them what they need

Yes, dissappointment is a part of life too. But this does not
justify giving up on enthusiasm. Au contraire. This calls for
encouraging enthusiasm to be born again! N'est ce pas?

By the way, I've worked with delinquent teenagers too. Of all the
groups I've worked with, this is my favorite. Especially delinquent
girls.

> i still prefer myself not wait to have my
> teeth falling out to realise that i missplaced my enthusiasm ( in the idea
> instead of the experience)

I would prefer that too. However, fortunately or unfortunately, I
usually have to lose my teeth before I realize I'm on yet another
wrong track.

But I would rather do things this way, making my own mistakes along
the way, taking into account the other views out there, but in the
end always doing my OWN thinking and trusting my own decisions.

I happen to think this is a healthy attitude, too, and I like to see
it in my children and other people. Particularly in the area of
health and nutrition, I like to see people enthusiastically seeking
out information, and then making thoughtful decisions based on what
they learn.

> it is  why i don't say that cooked foods are addictive per se ( neither
> drugs
> nor  alcohol )

Well I in fact do believe that drugs and alcohol are addictive. Some
substances are without question rapidly addictive just from their
chemical nature alone. But cooked foods are not in this category, in
my opinion.

> why is it so difficult to go without , if physiologically there is not
some
> kind of   reward ?

Well, it's difficult to go without MANY things, but this does not
mean that every human desire is an addiction. Even if there is a
physiological response to every desire (which there is, evidently) -
this still does not make every desire an addiction.

> some molecules have obviously more disturbing impact than others.( and it
> is proportional to the unexpectancy of the body to ever enconter such
> molecules in natural conditions)

Maybe you are contradicting yourself here. Didn't you just say, a
paragraph above, that drugs, alcohol, and cooked foods do NOT have a
"more disturbing impact than others?"

I don't think the degree of the "disturbing impact" has much to do
with the "encountering things in natural conditions" either. After
all, opium - a highly addictive substance, wouldn't you agree? - is
totally "encounterable" in nature.

> the question is: is the denaturation of food is  bringing us what we
> really need ?

Yes, that's the real question, I agree.

What's the answer? Who knows? I sure don't. Maybe some good and some
bad? Maybe some things are made more digestible, or less
problematic, when they're cooked?

> so what is the reasons and mechanisms of addictions ?

Drowning out one's sorrows. Stuffing feelings. Numbing out. Coping.
Surviving. Making oneself function in otherwise impossible
circumstances. (Like, for instance, you're too exhausted to go to
work one more day without ten cups of coffee, ten cokes and ten
chocolate bars to keep you awake. Like, if you don't have a drink
you know you'll never be able to walk over and talk to that girl.
Like, if you don't shoot up you simply cannot bear the terror and
heart-break of seeing the horrors that are occuring in your house.
Or even like when you believe - maybe incorrectly but that's what
you in fact believe - that you would not be able to survive without
the "friend in the night" help of your chosen addiction.

>
> the desertification process that goes with every rise of  civilizations is
> self destructive .
> i see the speedy evolution and mondialisation of the occidental culture
> precipitating that destruction.

You're looking at negative things. Why Jean-Claude? The
mind-blowingly, amazingly, wonderful things are SO much more
interesting, educational, fun, and abundant - than the negative
things.

> I see cooking as a way to "improve" our situation in the food chain at the
> root of the desertification.
> so even if it is better it might no be for long anymore. The awakening up
> from burying the head in the sand of that desert might be chocking to more
> than one.

I don't understand this paragraph.

Love Liza