Hi Axel,

>
> >>      O.K.  I must chime in here.  It is impossible to "cure" Herpes, Alan.
> >> The best you can do is keep your immune system healthy enough to keep the
> >> virus in check.  I'm a little confused at how you think a two week water
>  fast
> >> would cure people?  I understand that toxins that would be eliminated as a
> >> result of the fast could help the immune system to not be as suppressed,
>  but
> >> it would in no way heal the immune system enough to stop the Herpes
>  problem.
>
> alan:
>
> >Strictly speaking Bonnie, you are correct in almost everything you said
> >here. Only the body (the immune system) can "cure" anything, i.e. in
> >the case of viruses, keep them in check. Viruses (including HIV etc.)
> >are around all the time. They only get out of control when the
> >conditions are right for them (meaning wrong for us).
>
> HIV is a myth. there is no proof that the virus does anything at all. it is
> just a myth and a hoax. viruses are not beings or living entities! it is
> impossible that they DO something, for the same reason it is impossible that
> chairs or rocks DO something to somebody, like "the chair hurted me", or
> "the rock attacked me",

Ever been near a volcano or an avalanche?..rocks sure can attack you. ;-)

> or "a tiny piece of dead tissue hurted me".
> how can dead pieces of matter get out of control? do chairs get out of
>  control?
>
>
> i am not very knowledgeable on health matters, but i do have my common
> sense,

Well your common sense should tell you that your belief that a
virus is inactive or inert rather than a living organism is totally
irrelevant. We have the ability today to be able to actually
see viruses reproducing..meaning to be able to see viruses
entering and reprogramming cells to produce more viruses rather
than something else. Viruses may not be live organisms as we
know them (i.e. which contain a nucleus) but they are certainly
capable of carrying pieces of DNA and using these pieces to
reprogram the DNA in a cell to make the cell produce more copies
of the virus. As viruses need live cells to propagate and
viruses have been found in both live and dead cells, it is not
unlikely that viruses actually play some important role within
each and every cell (although it is not yet quite known what
useful role they play). It could be that each cell keeps a
stock of certain viruses containing certain pieces of DNA as
a sort of spare parts store to repair any serious damage to
some vital parts of the cell DNA. All this is of course merely
theory at the moment but it is certainly a fact that viruses
both exist and are able to program cells to produce copies
of themselves.

Using our common sense we could at least say that viruses are
most probably not supposed to be dangerous to humans. Why should
a god or evolution develop some organism which is dangerous to
another except if that organism needs the other as a food
source? The answer is twofold I think. Firstly: Humans have
an inbuilt mechanism for dealing with any foreign viruses it
does not want or need, i.e. a healthy immune system. Secondly:
Specific organisms all have their own specific viruses living
in specific environments. So why should viruses be dangerous
to man? Again common sense alone provides several answers:

- A child has not been weaned properly and thus has not been
given enough antibodies from the mother as a "starter kit" in
life, i.e. before developing enough of its own. There are
enough studies around which point to bottle-fed children
being less resistant to virus infections.

- Man himself may weaken his or her immune system by unhealthy
eating and other detrimental activities. Again there are
many studies which document this aspect.

- Man, through his feeding habits, may have subjected himself
to foods containing virulent viruses which are well endowed
with the capability of mutating fast to quickly form the "key"
which a cell needs to be entered. In other words these viruses
are merely attempting to find a possible home within a foreign
organism (i.e. man). They do not mean to harm man, they are
merely displaced from their normal environment and attempt to
survive in the new environment (even though their survival
attempts may harm man). It is strongly suspected that Ebola,
for example, is an otherwise harmless virus that normally
lives in some organism up high in the trees of certain
jungle regions of Africa. Chimp troops in the jungle have
been seen by researchers to die from Ebola on occasion so it
is obvious that they are somehow consuming or otherwise
coming into contact with the organism (whatever it is) which
carries the otherwise harmless virus. It is obvious from
the mere virulence of the Ebola virus that humans have
never been in contact with it before and thus have little or
no natural defenses against it. It just so happens that the
Ebola outbreak was in an area where a lot of forestry work
was going on..and the forestry workers in this region ate
many of the chimps in that jungle as a free supplement to
their own food. So the theory of how this otherwise harmless
virus infected humans is practically common sense even though
it has not yet been proven. A strain of the HIV virus has
also been detected in apes BTW, and AIDS is also said to
have first broken out in Africa.

This is one of the reasons why I believe that humans should
never have started eating meat.

Alan