Tom, this is my point too.....this is part of why I am backing off from the
raw food community.  I have found that I do better on about 80% raw rather
than 100%.......NOT due to "weakness and cravings" or "lack of willpower"
but because physically I did poorly on 100%.....not to say that others will
not do well on 100%, I just didn't......I feel like I was chasing an ideal
instead of what worked best for me.  I would like to get by the
"percentages" because it seems that anyone who is not all raw is looked down
upon by the "raw gurus"  :) Thanks!  Peace, Jen aka Kashmir3
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas E. Billings <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: "fruitflys" in paradise


>>>Jean-Louis
>>>  -Fruitarianism can work fine, and even very well, for a few months
>>> or, if fruit is of very high quality, a few years.
>
>Alan:
>>Tom Billings also claims this..but there is no proof as yet
>>because quality fruit has not been on the market long enough..
>>and eaten alone long enough by enough people..to be able to make
>>such a statement. Chimps etc. still get along well with plenty of
>>fruit in comparison to the quantities of other things they eat.
>
>Tom:
>I have discussed this topic extensively of late, on this list. I have
>pointed out that one cannot prove a negative, and that the burden of
>proof lies on the pro-fruitarian side. Further I have pointed out that
>I have examined a number of claims of success on long-term, fruitarian
>100% raw diets and found them all dubious, lacking credibility. Summary: to
>date, there is no credible proof for your claim, and plenty of evidence
>to indicate the claim is false, with "quality" being the latest excuse
>embraced by the raw vegan diet gurus, who are desperate to find ANY
>excuse to explain the massive failure (long-term) of the diets they
>promote.
>
>At some point people must wake up and realize that people are more
important
>than idealistic dietary dogma, a great deal of which is nonsense anyway.
>
>PS chimps do eat lots of fruit, and also lots of insects, leaves, roots,
>and meat.
>
>Tom Billings
>
>