Alan:
>I have also been campaigning against milk in here..even before this
>link was known. I guess I need to be a certain Mr. Cohen with a
>certain nationality before some people in here are willing to believe
>anything I say on this subject. :-(

Hmmm. Another nationality jibe. :/ Regardless, your "campaign" was quite
limited, if that's what it was.

For the record, I believe that humans can be fully healthy without milk,
especially if they are not vegans. Nevertheless my own experience with raw
dairy products after over 8 years avoiding any kind of dairy was relatively
placid. As I previously posted (reviewable in the archives) I found no
pleasure in milk or yogurt, enjoyed butter, cheese, and cream to a degree
but found them a lessor substitute to other raw fatty animal foods and
don't eat them in deference to "true" animal foods. I had no bad reactions
of any kind. If milk is evil I suspect I should have noticed _something_
after eight years without it. I believe most commercial dairy is probably
best avoided for all the standard reasons, but wouldn't think twice about
enjoying raw dairy products from a pastured cow or goat if it tasted good.
My wife apppreciates her ocassional whole milk yogurt.


Regarding the notmilk web site:

There is certainly an unfought battle to be had against the modern US dairy
industry, but Mr. Cohen's website does not further the anti-dairy cause
appreciably IMO. His reference list is laughably weak considering his
claims (using Alan's strategy of making overblown generalizations as fact).
I saw none of the website's claims footnoted to any specific research--and
the vast majority of his "references" were not peer-reviewed in even the
most informal sense so how can one investigate his claims? If he expects to
be taken seriously by the "establishment" he is so vehimently against he
will need to make a better and more rigorous case for his arguments (many
of which are IMO possible and long overdue). If, on the other hand, he
wishes to sell a few books and be seen as a crusader against the dairy
industry he will probably succeed. Many folks into alternative health
regimes appear to need someone to hate and those big food processor
industries are always popular. And Mr Cohen provides a bit of conspiracy
theory which is always popular. ;)

In a phrase: sensationalistic and overblown. The "industry" will have a
field day coutering his hype with their own hype. It that the American Way,
Alan? ;)

Perhaps someone who has popped for the book can share with us if it is
anything more than the dairy chapters in Fit For Life I and II on steroids?

Cheers,
Kirt

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