I seem to remember reading somewhere that tying cable together in parallel was a bad idea - for some electrical field type reason. So leaving mine in a mess is in fact a scientific decision - at least thats my excuse. Tim O'Leary ----->ICQ: 34954646 [log in to unmask] http://www.alphalink.com.au/~oleary/ Vist my Anti-virus reliable information page: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~oleary/Virus/virus1.htm PCBUILD's List Owner's: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]>