hearken back to that long-ago day of nov 23, 1996, when bodhi wrote:

>reminded me of my time at the living foods symposium in october '93,
>when someone from the stage (ray kent?) exclaimed, "there will never be
>peace on earth so long as humans eat meat.  no meat, no war."  well, in
>sanskrit,the word for "war" translates as "the desire for more cows"

five nights & days later, peter brandt wrote:

<< .....  But when I hear Ray Kent, of
<<all people, being admiringly quoted for having said, "there will never
<<be peace on earth as long as humans eat meat" which is not only
<<complete nonsense and an insult to all indigenous peoples, but also a
<<statement that only serves to promote more polarization & conflict in a
<<world already saturated with strife, I have to speak up.  For too long
<<we have allowed hypocrisy & zealatory to proliferate in our community.

peter,
	i appreciate your sharing with all of us your impressions of
mr. ray kent.  i truly don't know the man, only having met him at the
first international living foods symposium.  i tend to feel he did voice
the "eating meat = no world peace" sentence, but did express my
uncertainty with a question mark in my original post.  not a big deal,
just wanted to set the record straight.
	i happen to agree with your assessment of his assertion.  my
immediate thoughts after hearing the statement consisted of a first
nations (native) hunter praying in gratitude to the spirit of the deer he
had just felled with a single arrow through the heart.  instant death
with minimal (zero?) pain, with all body parts used and cherished.
perhaps a few on this "resource list" would not mind going out in such a
fashion.  (personally, i'd like to end up frozen or composted... or not
dead!)
	while not admiring ray for that comment, i do love him for
turning me on to avocados!  he'll always hold a hallowed place in my
dietary history, since i didn't eat the green fatties before he leapt
into my life and slid the stage-created guacamole into my mouth.  he also
counseled me to give up the last fractionated food i held onto -- vitamin
c.  i followed his advice and haven't gone back to the unwhole foods.  i
bought a book at his urging, _sunlight_ by zane r kime.  and i think i've
told the list about my not shaving my head and manifesting gandhi for
hallow'een.  he told me to save the "antennae for your sinuses."  a
little shot of his charisma & enthusiasm kept me hairy & whole.

<<Thanks for helping me clarify myself on this issue.

		ditto

desiring less cows,
		   bodhi