Nieft / Secola wrote:
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> Is it just me, or is this getting tiresome?
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> Cheers,
> Kirt
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yes i agree, this putdown someone else in an attempt to eletvate our own
position can be a tiring position to hold, i did it for many years and there's
a "teensy weensy" bit of that left in me. i think it stems from male dominant
competitive animalistic "instinctive" heritage from the past.

 i suggest when that urge comes we attempt to speak for the self what
works/plays for us with " i" statements rather than pointing the finger with
what's wrong with "you" statements. this has improved my friendships with
other men especially and may be an essential evolutionary step to help save
this planet from the growing number of male dominant men being born each day.

 seems to me if we carry on this natural "instinctive" male dominantg behavior
pattern without any modifications or adaptations that it will probably lead to
a serious threat to the human population and earth. in my mind we are already
dangling on the edge of that cliff.

 after observing animal societies for many years now i see this male dominant
position in nature is quite prevelant, however it is not the only choice. the
difference between the bonobo chimps society and the other(can't remember
name) chimp societies more commonly studied by scientists shows to me we have options.

 bonobos dissipate their agression with sexuality(sounds kinda fun) while
other chimp societies dissapate aggression by killing each other and/or being
submissive to the male dominant leader. i'm not saying one is right and the
other is wrong, just pointing out that even if our heritage points to certain
social or dietary behaviors, that doesn't mean they are set in stone and
cannot be modified over time to account for changing times and environments.
animals are smart enough to change their behavior patterns to adapt to the
changing environment, i hope our "instincts" allow us to do the same.