Bob:
>How much do your blood tests cost, who does them?

My doctor orders them up from a lab & also they did what is called a
provoked urine test: a DMPS chelation followed by my having to
collect my urine for 24 hours & then I had to Fed-ex it off to a
Chicago lab.  The cost was about $150 I believe, about half for the
DMPS & half for the lab.  Karma tests are extra, and not commonly
done outside of California.

>Boron is supposed to be a good guy in bone density formation.

The dose makes the poison, & while it may be an essential nutrient,
I would be real surprised if too much would not be a negative.  &
don't forget that thing I cross-posted a while ago which said that
bone density is postively correlated with cancer incidence.

>I think blood donation is a life-shortener.  You are
> squandering too manyenzymes and forcing the body to manufacture
> too much blood (sort of likeexercise overdose, to put it in language
>that will prick your ears up).

There is some truth to this, but if you were on the Longevity list &
read Tom Hennesey's posts in the last few days on the latest
progressive medical thinking (I know, I know, this is sort of an
oxymoron) on iron stores, you would know that ferretin levels
(non-hemoglobin iron stores) are now starting to be suggested to
ideally be held to zero.  Iron is a very, very negative substance
above minimal levels (a lot like protein), & Tom is a fanatic about
collecting & posting all sorts of tidbits on its negatives.  Read
the current (Jan. 1997) Scientific American cover story on how iron
& calcium stores in the brain contribute to the etiology of
Parkinson's Disease.   (I beat Tom to this one :^)     I give blood
as often as I can (every 8 weeks is their minimal interval).  The
minor negatives associated with this are far outweighed by the gains
from dumping that excess iron.

>Then too, consider the evil uses to which donated blood is
> put (blood transfausions), which is further  evidence that it's a bad
> idea.

Bob, you are being silly.  Sure transfusions can be done for the
wrong reasons, but when you need one, you need one.  If it was me I
sure would want the blood to come from a NHer (or even an
instincto), not some SAD clown.

>(Your endorsement of chelation therapy doesn't make me feel
> any more secure about it, BTW).

I sort of have the same feeling about your endorsement of porcelain
fillings, but I'm thinking about taking your advice if you can
convince me a little more about the stability of the aluminum.

But go to a good university library & look up J. Bjorksten & his
chelation work.  Today on the Longevity list Tom Hennesey just said
that all the metals except iron can be excreted, but the only way to
get iron out is by sweating (something I advocate highly) &
bloodletting.  I think he is wrong (it wouldn't be the first time).
He said: "It has been shown though that iron has *no way* to be
excreted by the body other than through sweat or bleeding. Whereas
all other metals have a excretion method as with mercury and its
binder glutathione.  Glutathione is an antioxidant which is depleted
by iron."  [Realize that Tom's whole thing is iron's negatives, so I
take him with a little grain of salt.]  I'm not sure that all of all
the heavy metals can be excreted naturally (indeed, I'm almost
certain they can't), & chelation is an essential adjunct to what
fasting/normal elimination can accomplish as far as I'm concerned.

Bob, I'm getting ready to play hardball on this, & before long it
will be No More Mr. Nice Guy & I'm going to have to bring out the
big gun: Bohdi.  Be forewarned.

--Doug Schwartz
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