Beautiful conversation.

I have a little question, Who's to say these supposedly spritual people
were so great after all?  And which authoritarian paradigm of spirituality
are we using?  I myself don't believe or disbelieve in spirituality, but I
do notice that everyday I wake up and find my senses focused on this earth
realm, and I notice that even some of the most supposedly spiritual people
are taking poor care of the earth.  What is the value of spirituality
anyway if we can't even take care of our physical home.  I got pretty much
disgusted with the whole thing (which is not to say that I am not
"spiritual".)  I feel it's putting the cart before the horse, or rather the
fruit before planting the fruit tree, (which is sadly necessary in this day
and age of no more world-wide canopy).

That's my little monkey wrench,

Zephyr