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At 10:07 PM 8/3/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Tom:
>Nature is not interested in your desire for simplicity. Nature simply IS.
>As has been discussed on this list, the first people were apparently
>non-vegetarian, eating wild game and wild p;ant foods. That is not the
>diet you want - you want raw vegan, with cultivated plant foods, including
>grain. Don't reference the "original" diet unless your diet is similar.
>Tom:
>I disagree that nature is perfect. Nature is a series of trade-offs, in
>which animals struggle to survive long enough to reproduce. In general
>terms, nature wants to kill you - via bacteria, viruses, predation,
>starvation. Again, nature simply IS - best not to elevate it to
>the level of presumed perfection.
Walter:
I'll concur with that. I do want to comment: Male elephant seals "rape"
many female elephant seals in order to compete and reproduce. A male
elephant seal is usually three times the size of a female, and can easily
suffocate a female by falling asleep while having sexual intercourse. A
female black widow spider, eats her male partner after sexual intercourse.
Jane Goodall observed the chimpanzees and was appalled when one female chimp
attacked a mother and stole her baby chimp and ate it for dinner. She also
commented that the female chimp seemed to have no regret over the whole
incident.
My point is: If it happens in nature, it doesn't mean it should apply to
humans.
>(A recent post here on the reasons some fruits have toxins in them,
>provides an excellent example of trade-offs in nature. It is in the
>archives.)
Just went through the archives recently...use the power of the search engine!
Walter.
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