Good thread you guys. Think I'll cash in on some of those vouchers. Smile.
Vicki
----- Original Message -----
From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:08 AM
Subject: Prayer vouchers
> Brad, once again, this is very well stated. And I agree. smile
>
> Helen
>
> At 08:13 PM 12/22/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >Helen,
> >
> >Exactly. He does indeed care and you put it very nicely, he gave us the
> >mind of Christ, and in that we ought have confidence to make daily
> >decisions and use our prayer vouchers as it were, for things we seem to
> >have lost God in the midst of it, have no immediate influence upon, or
need
> >help discerning which facet is more righteous or right.
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >At 12/22/2003 on Monday, you wrote:
> > >Brad,
> > >
> > >Until you brought up this subject, I had forgotten how it was in those
> > times.
> > >I agree with you that there are some things God couldn't care less
about
> > >our asking Him. He cares about everything in our lives. He just
doesn't
> > >need to be constantly reminded. Also, He has given us the Mind of
Christ,
> > >and we need to trust that His Mind is directing us even in the smallest
> > >details.
> > >I've enjoyed your posts on this subject. <smile>
> > >Helen
> > >
> > >At 05:23 PM 12/22/03 -0600, you wrote:
> > > >Helen,
> > > >
> > > >I remember in my spiritual milk drinking days, I was getting some
counsel
> > > >from a great brother in the Lord. He said he found it irritating when
> > > >people would ask God stuff like which silverware to set out for
dinner
> > with
> > > >company and etc. lol. We are to seek God in what we do, but there are
some
> > > >things I believe God could care less about.
> > > >
> > > >Brad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Brad
> > > >
> > > >At 12/22/2003 on Monday, you wrote:
> > > > >Excellent post, Brad!
> > > > >
> > > > >Helen
> > > > >
> > > > >At 10:04 AM 12/22/03 -0600, you wrote:
> > > > > >Mat,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >We live in a fallen world, in times where stuff just happens.
Over
> > > > > >Christianizing such happenings is probably as bad as the
opposite,
> > > that of
> > > > > >ignoring God's involvement in our lives at all. I wonder how God
feels
> > > > > >getting the blame for work of the enemy? Isn't he, the enemy the
> > one who
> > > > > >came to kill, steal and destroy? That does not mean to ignore the
> > events
> > > > > >and happenings in our life and not look for God's hand in it,
> > > but things
> > > > > >happen and mistakes happen, and we deal with them. I like your
> > scripture
> > > > > >reference on shutting people up lol. Actually a scripture
> > > that helps me,
> > > > > >and I am not sure of it's location right off, but says to the
> > effect...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >All things are turned for the good of those who believe in God.
Some
> > > > > >translations say "who love God". If anyone knows where this is,
let me
> > > > > >know. I ought have it memorized chapter and verse and verbatim,
but
> > > do in
> > > > > >gist of application. This is sometimes mistaken for saying that
all
> > > good
> > > > > >things happen to those who believe, and if you are having
> > difficulties,
> > > > > >then you don't believe enough... hogwash! That is not the point
it
> > > means.
> > > > > >Point being that not all things we endure come from God, but they
are
> > > > > >turned for the good of those who love and believe and trust in
God.
> > > > > >Sometimes that may mean just leaning on God for peace and
strength
> > > > which is
> > > > > >more valuable than the occurence or loss in the first place. I
did run
> > > > > >across another scripture to help shut folks up if you like lol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >1 Thess 4:11
> > > > > >11 and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and attend
to
> > > > your own
> > > > > >business and work with your hands, just as we commanded you
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm sure they are meaning well and trying to give you hope, but
> > > sometimes
> > > > > >the transparency of those ideals are insulting more than
comforting.
> > > > > >Biblical patronizing? Seems all would be able to see through
those
> > > > > >attempts, but I guess not. I'd rather deal with that fact I
didn't
> > > remove
> > > > > >the canvas top, it caught some air, yanked the bike out the truck
and
> > > > boom!
> > > > > >Rather than spiritualizing it and wondering if God is telling me
> > not to
> > > > > >ride the bike? Will we get hurt? Will we hurt the baby? Were we
> > about to
> > > > > >get in an accident in that pick up truck, the old man isn't saved
> > > yet, and
> > > > > >God whipped the bike off the truck to stop us? Was the pin
striping on
> > > > > >crooked and so he trashed the bike so we ought get a new one? lol
> > > What is
> > > > > >the great meaning behind this? Just as we can, without God in our
> > lives,
> > > > > >run circular equations, never getting an answer, we can do this
too
> > > as God
> > > > > >being the brunt of that never ending loop. Sometimes we don't
know why
> > > > > >things happen and just need to chalk it up to not knowing and
that God
> > > > will
> > > > > >work it out in the end. In your quest of Christianity depth you
> > will run
> > > > > >across doom and gloomers and those with Santa Claus in the sky
> > attitudes
> > > > > >looking to be blessed out of their socks with gifts and etc. So
one
> > > needs
> > > > > >to keep that knowledge in mind when being guided by others. If
one
> > > > > >lives each day in prayer over such purchases and etc. one will
know
> > > > > >already what to do according to God's prompting and no need to
second
> > > > > >guess... as much lol I say as much because we sometimes miss it,
but
> > > then
> > > > > >we know that we know we did. Sounds good the body shop guy might
be
> > > > able to
> > > > > >fix it up some. That might be cheaper than buying a new one. Of
> > > course it
> > > > > >ought be safe, but I'd think it could be so if not
> > trampled completely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Brad
>
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