Hey, Frank! You playing hookie again?--Matt, N1IBB.
At 11:21 AM 11/12/2015, you wrote:
>If you are seriously looking for a vehicle without any solid state electron=
>ics you are going to need to set your time machine for the very early 70s o=
>r earlier.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]] =
>On Behalf Of John Miller
>Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:22 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: accessibility of appliances
>
>It's funny, now that we're on a budget here that no one could actually live=
> on while I job search, anyone knows of anything anywhere in the country le=
>t me know moving is looking better every day, a anyway, I find us leaning t=
>oward older cars now. They're cheaper and cheaper to fix yes but I'm findin=
>g no matter what we get for a family car, older and less features is what I=
> want because my old repair and diagnostics methods work without needing to=
> put it on a scanner or something, anything goes wrong I can diagnose it by=
> sound or what ever in the driveway and with not as many features,I can fix=
> it and less can go wrong. The current one I had to replace most of the bra=
>ke lines in because it sat so long, no antilock brakes module to deal with =
>was very nice and all straight clean runs.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:09 AM
>Subject: Re: accessibility of appliances
>
>
> >I read that book a while back. I think it's rather humorous that one=20
> >of the only cars still working was an Edsole, yup, no computer crapola=20
> >interface, just a carburator and spark plugs.
> > The thing is that the Coppel book is Real! Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Curtis Delzer <[log in to unmask]
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:44:41 -0800
> > Subject: Re: accessibility of appliances
> >
> > or, "one second after," where it is an EMP that does it. and then,=20
> > his sequel, "one year after" published by William Forstchen which is=20
> > not as fanciful as it sounds.
> >
> > At 06:37 PM 11/11/2015, you wrote:
> > Well Jordan, it sounds like we might all be forced in to buying=20
> > Iphones or androids if in fact they have app's to control our washers=20
> > etc.
> > Boy, that's
> > scary, the internet of Things. I am reading a book by Ted Coppel=20
> > called
> > Lights Out where he discusses a cyber attack that will take
> > down the
> > electrical grid. Very interesting and thought provoking, Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jordan Gallacher
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:45 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: accessibility of appliances
> >
> > It's definitely a problem that I do not know of any solutions to since=20
> > quite a few appliances have gone to either a flat panel for the=20
> > controls or a touchscreen. I have heard of a few that do have apps to=20
> > be able to control them, but I cannot say anything other than that=20
> > since I have never tried any of them.
> > Jordan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: For blind ham radio operators
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:30 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: accessibility of appliances
> >
> > Yup, right you are about washers and dryers, at least our new front=20
> > loading ones. I can start ours, but that's all. I have been meaning=20
> > to contact the manufacturer about accessibility features, such as=20
> > markings etc, but have not done so. I bet there aren't any. Even=20
> > when you go into most stores to check out stuff it's non-operative and=20
> > the sales people have no idea what you are asking about. I will make=20
> > myself a note to ask about accessibility.
> > 73, Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Miller <[log in to unmask]
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:09:32 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?
> >
> > Someone I dog sit for now and then, also a ham but anyway, last time I=20
> > was there I tried to use his washing machine. If you set it and=20
> > forget it you only need to hit the start button and the power button I=20
> > think.
> > If you
> > change modes or anything, water temperature, none of the controls stop=20
> > they just spin for ever, with clicks at the settings but bump it with=20
> > the power button off it will spin but not change anything so you can't=20
> > mark it or anything. I'm glad I have the old style but I'm sure no=20
> > matter how many times I fix it, it won't last forever.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Gammon
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:33 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?
> >
> > Yes, right you are. We once got one of those dumb coffee makers and I=20
> > took it back because it was not very accessible. My greatest pet=20
> > peeve is that technology can be so liberating and because of the=20
> > idiots who make much of it don't consider putting in some simple=20
> > beeps, or even speech, things that should or could be more accessible=20
> > often wind up being unusuable for blind folks. Ok, down off my soap=20
> > box. Well, one last thing, let's hear it for Universal Design! Jim=20
> > WA6EKS
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim Shaffer <[log in to unmask]
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:15:15 -0600
> > Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?
> >
> > Eric, getting all our blind friends to become hams wouldn't do it=20
> > either.
> > For example, look at all the products that are not accessible, for=20
> > example, the Keurig 2.0 coffee brewers. Are there even any accessible=20
> > new Sirius/XM radios?
> > --
> > Jim, ke5al
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Oyen
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:42 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?
> >
> > actually, there is a way.
> > method 1: use a concurrent table that contains columns for station ID,=20
> > =3D LAT, LONG, DIrection of travel, Velocity, etc.
> >
> > method 2 might involve using an app like apple maps (on their
> > iPhone) =3D
> > which can tell the location of a pointer on the map (used in turn by =3D=
>=20
> > turn navigation).
> >
> > Honestly, I think the first method is easier to achieve.
> >
> > The problem with map description is that it needs a lot of information=20
> > =3D not easily presentable and also needs a large amount of bandwidth=20
> > for =3D retrieval of location specifics in real time.
> >
> > I have noticed this issue about a lot of the digital mode software for=20
> > =3D ham radio. almost none of it is properly accessible for the blind =
>=3D=20
> > (especially
> > dm88 in HRD). getting anyone to acknowledge that we (as a =3D community=
>=20
> > of
> > hams) even exists is starting to become a full time job =3D (and=20
> > sometimes even major frustration as I get the impression that they =3D=20
> > don't want to hear from us).
> >
> > perhaps what we need to do is to find every blind person we can and =3D=20
> > encourage them to become hams. The larger our population in a=20
> > specific =3D population market, the more we get listened to. Its=20
> > simple, direct and =3D easy to do.
> >
> > DE n7zzt Eric
> >
> > On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:05 PM, John Miller wrote:
> >
> > I've experimented with APRS and I don't see a way, It shows actual =3D=20
> > maps
> > on=3D20 the screen with people pinpointed on them, nothing is described=20
> > that I =3D
> > can=3D20
> > tell except maybe longitude and latitude and I'm not even totally sure=20
> > =3D
> > about=3D20
> > that for sure. I don't see it being able to be accessible in it's =3D
> > current=3D20
> > state and not sure there's really any way they could make it =3D=20
> > accessible.
> > =3D20
> > -----Original Message-----=3D20
> > From: Matthew Chao
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:08 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Accessibility of APRS?
> > =3D20
> > Hi, Folks. I have a Kenwood TMV710A which has APRS. Is there any way=20
> > to make APRS accessible? Thanks.--Matt, N1IBB.=3D20
> >
> >
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