Someone I dog sit for now and then, also a ham but anyway, last time I was 
there I tried to use his washing machine. If you set it and forget it you 
only need to hit the start button and the power button I think. If you 
change modes or anything, water temperature, none of the controls stop they 
just spin for ever, with clicks at the settings but bump it with the power 
button off it will spin but not change anything so you can't mark it or 
anything. I'm glad I have the old style but I'm sure no matter how many 
times I fix it, it won't last forever.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Gammon
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:33 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?

Yes, right you are.  We once got one of those dumb coffee makers
and I took it back because it was not very accessible.  My
greatest pet peeve is that technology can be so liberating and
because of the idiots who make much of it don't consider putting
in some simple beeps, or even speech, things that should or
could be more accessible often wind up being unusuable for blind
folks.  Ok, down off my soap box.  Well, one last thing, let's
hear it for Universal Design! Jim WA6EKS

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Shaffer <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:15:15 -0600
Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?

Eric, getting all our blind friends to become hams wouldn't do it
either.
For example, look at all the products that are not accessible,
for example,
the Keurig 2.0 coffee brewers.  Are there even any accessible new
Sirius/XM
radios?
--
Jim, ke5al
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:42 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?

actually, there is a way.
method 1: use a concurrent table that contains columns for
station ID, =
LAT, LONG, DIrection of travel, Velocity, etc.

method 2 might involve using an app like apple maps (on their
iPhone) =
which can tell the location of a pointer on the map (used in turn
by =
turn navigation).

Honestly, I think the first method is easier to achieve.

The problem with map description is that it needs a lot of
information =
not easily presentable and also needs a large amount of bandwidth
for =
retrieval of location specifics in real time.

I have noticed this issue about a lot of the digital mode
software for =
ham radio.  almost none of it is properly accessible for the
blind =
(especially dm88 in HRD).  getting anyone to acknowledge that we
(as a =
community of hams) even exists is starting to become a full time
job =
(and sometimes even major frustration as I get the impression
that they =
don't want to hear from us).

perhaps what we need to do is to find every blind person we can
and =
encourage them to become hams.  The larger our population in a
specific =
population market, the more we get listened to.  Its simple,
direct and =
easy to do.

DE n7zzt Eric

On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:05 PM, John Miller wrote:

I've experimented with APRS and I don't see a way, It shows
actual =
maps on=20
the screen with people pinpointed on them, nothing is described
that I =
can=20
tell except maybe longitude and latitude and I'm not even
totally sure =
about=20
that for sure.  I don't see it being able to be accessible in
it's =
current=20
state and not sure there's really any way they could make it =
accessible.
=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Matthew Chao
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:08 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Accessibility of APRS?
=20
Hi, Folks.  I have a Kenwood TMV710A which has APRS.  Is there
any
way to make APRS accessible?  Thanks.--Matt, N1IBB.=20


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