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"Richard B. McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
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Hey Jim!  Yeah, there is some 6M stuff around here in LA; so for now anyway
I plan to keep my 6M J-pole on Ant 2. It sounds like we are doing sort of
the same thing with your dipole and my 10M loop antennas for RX.


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 8:20 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Kenwood TS-2000 Receive-only Antenna

On my TS-590 I use my attic dipole as the receive antenna.  It tends to be a
better receive antenna on 15 than the vertical, but I believe the vertical
is, in general, a better transmit antenna than the dipole, so I use the
dipole as a receive antenna only, since it has a better signal/noise ratio
than the vertical.
--
Jim, ke5al
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Forst
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 10:02 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Kenwood TS-2000 Receive-only Antenna

Richard,

Good luck with all this.  I had seen you also post the question to the
2000 list, and saw a reply similar to what I had suggested, only  he
suggested connecting both HF antennas to the radio and switching between
ant 1 and ant 2   from the radio front panel.

This would save the cost of the coax switch.   I think you have a 6
meter J pole connected to ant 2, and  you need to decide if there is enough
6 meter activity  for you to keep it connected all the time,
instead of putting a second hF antenna on that port.    Maybe there is
some local 6 meter stuff going on in your area that warrants keeping it on
the ant 2 port.  It's also possible that  another HF antenna on that port
could also tune up  on 6 meters.

Nothing wrong with a RX only antenna for HF, but  except for some special
situations, it would be better to have the option of having 2 antennas that
can both RX and TX.

73, have fun, Steve KW3A



On 11/7/2015 10:41 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
> Hi Steve!  Thanks for your below.  Using a switch is a good idea.  
> Well, I am doing this at 10M as a "for fun" and practice thing, 
> mostly.  At 10M, it is small and easy.  From what I learn here, indeed 
> I'll apply that at the 80M level.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Steve Forst
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 9:15 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Kenwood TS-2000 Receive-only Antenna
>
> Richard,
>
> I thought you fell off the edge of the earth.  If you go this route, 
> you need to  turn on menu 18 to make the RX antenna jack active.  It 
> is the RCA jack at the lower right hand corner of the  rear of the 
> radio.
>
>
> If you are going to do this, why not forget the RX only antenna and 
> pick up a 2 position coax switch.  You would be able to TX on 
> whichever of the antennas is better at a particular time.  Coax jumper 
> from ant 1 of the radio to the switch, and each antenna to the other 
> side of the
> switch.    Manually switch the coax switch between the 2 HF antennas.
>
>
> If you have the supports and wherewithal to put up a loop, why not make
> it  bigger?    Then if you upgrade,  you would be  already set up with a
> loop that isn't limited to 10 meters, and you won't have to do the 
> project again.
>
> 73, Steve KW3A
> On 11/6/2015 11:42 AM, Lou Kolb wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> Your plan should work, although you might not get to use it often as
>> 10 meters isn't open all the time, especially with the cycle descending.
>>
>> A beverage antenna is a very long wire, usually hundreds of feet 
>> long, that is strung about 4 feet off the ground. It is directional 
>> toward the direction in which the wire is extended. They're usually 
>> used on the low frequencies like 80 and especially 160 meters. A 
>> possible advantage of a loop on 28 megs is that it will be small so 
>> you should be able to rotate it and null out the noise. Also, I'm not 
>> familiar with the 2000 in this regard but you'll probably have to 
>> either throw a switch on the radio or change something in the menus 
>> to switch in that receive only antenna. good luck and 73. Lou WA3MIX
>>
>>
>> Lou Kolb
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard B. McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 10:47 AM
>> Subject: Kenwood TS-2000 Receive-only Antenna
>>
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Page 76 of the TS-2000 manual says: "HF RX ANTENNA - If you have a 
>>> separate HF antenna (below 30 MHz) only for receiving, connect the 
>>> antenna coaxial cable to the HF RX ANT connector on the rear panel.
>>> This connector is considered to be connected to a beverage antenna 
>>> or directional loop antenna for low- band operation."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I intend to make a 10M full wave loop antenna to connect to the RX 
>>> only antenna jack of the TS-2000.  Right now, I use a multi-band 43'
>>> vertical antenna (6M - 160M) for 10M operations (phone).  Although 
>>> this vertical is pretty good at TX, it is pretty noisy at RX.  
>>> Often, I encounter a weak signal that is hard to pull-in.  So,  here 
>>> is where I am thinking of employing the 10M RX only full wave loop 
>>> antenna.  Therefore, I have the following questions about this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)       What does the language in the manual (above) mean when it says
>>> "If
>>> you have a separate HF antenna (below 30 MHz) only for receiving"?  
>>> I intend to make my antenna at 28.4 MHZ.  Because I am only a 
>>> Technician Class, my 10M phone privileges are only in the range 28.3 
>>> MHZ - 28.5 MHZ; hence making this full wave loop at 28.4 MHZ.
>>> Essentially, will my antenna work?
>>>
>>> 2)      What does the language in the manual (above) mean when it says
>>> "This
>>> connector is considered to be connected to a beverage antenna or 
>>> directional loop antenna"?  What is a "beverage" antenna? What is 
>>> the difference between my intended "full wave loop" versus a 
>>> "directional loop" antenna?
>>>
>>> 3)      Am I correct that when I am operating and tell the TS-2000 to 
>>> use
>>> the RX only antenna TX would still go out to my 43' vertical, and 
>>> that no RX would be heard from that 43' vertical?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After I upgrade to General Class, I think I might put a 40M or 80M 
>>> full wave loop antenna onto my TS-2000.  Presently, I have the 43'
>>> vertical on the TS-2000's "Ant 1" jack and a 6M J-pole on "Ant 2."
>>> Whether I put this future 40M or 80M full wave loop onto the RX 
>>> only, Ant 1 or Ant 2 jacks is a question for another day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Richard KK6MRH
>>
> 


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