A-men with that one. I fully agree. What a shame.

Carolyn Kj4vt


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From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 5:05 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: how the hobby has changed in 30 years Etc.

> Jim,
> What you said here goes along with something I heard on the radio 
> recently.  It was a brief news item that someone's survey indicates 
> that thirty percent of persons contacted had not nor intended to meet 
> their neighbors.  That just amazed me.  With all of the social media, 
> guess actually meeting people is out of fashion.  When i grew up, 
> although God knows that was eons ago, the neighborhood was every kids 
> turf.  During the summer, from dawn to evening, all of us hung out 
> together and if you ran off the rails, any neighbors mom or dad could 
> call you on it.  Do that today and you'd have the cops and seven 
> lawyers all over you!!
> i don't understand all the changes but I don't think i necessarily 
> approve of them.  Like that will make a difference.
> pat, K9JAUAt 02:34 PM 7/13/2015, you wrote:
>>Hi Colin, first, your ideas and thoughts as usual, are very well
>>stated.  Maybe your sticky notes aren't sticky enough so they
>>never got turned in.  Seriously though, when I was reading your
>>thoughts, it occurred to me that, like ham radio, the animal
>>groups have also been declining over time.  By Animal groups, I
>>mean the Lions, Elks, Moose, and so-on are or seem to all be
>>struggling to keep their numbers up.  Don't know about the rotary
>>and siroptimists, but I think that many people, especially young
>>ones, has been getting into the social media stuff and don't feel
>>the same need for direct interaction like meetings etc.  Maybe
>>this portends some major underlying social change because of
>>technology, maybe even polarization, especially in the US.  I
>>belong to two ham clubs here.  One, has a breakfast every fourth
>>Saturday of the month which usually gets about 20 to 25 hams and
>>their significant others, maybe some wannabees.  The other club
>>has a Friday evening meeting that usually has a tech lecture most
>>months  or auction a couple times a year.  I have not gone to
>>that usuY for lack of a reade but I think it's fairly well
>>attended.  I don't have a sense of the numbers in each club, but
>>another local club seems to be cranking out new hams some of whom
>>I have heard and talked too on VHF.  Wish I had the secret
>>solution for you, and us in general.  I don't think free pizza
>>and beer would even encourage folks for too long.
>>Speaking of HF, I got my ALS600 fired up and am not using any
>>antenna tuner in line since I found out the Ldg AT600 Pro II auto
>>tuner is just plain Not Blind friendly, even LDG wrote me about
>>that.  Now I gotta return the thing to HRO hoping they will give
>>me back most of the $338  I spent on it.  Hope we can talk on HF,
>>bands permitting, one of these days.  I could barely hear Lloyd
>>yesterday and called numerous times using the amp never to be
>>heard.  Kind of disappointing but 20 meters was pretty bad.  Well
>>enough for now, 73, Jim WA6EKS 

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