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Steve Forst <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:19:15 -0400
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Glenn,

Don't sweat it.  We all had to start somewhere.   Of course the laws of 
physics don't change regardless of how great our desires or how skinny 
our wallet.

You have mentioned more than once that you are on a tight budget.  If 
you threw out a dollar amount you could spend, you might get some 
suggestion of what is available for that price, instead of a lot of 
theoretical stuff.

Once you get the station up, you will enjoy it.

73, Steve KW3A


On 6/20/2015 10:40 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>      Well, if folks on this list need patience for me, then I'm on the wrong
> list.
> Glenn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "howard kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "'Glenn / Lenny'" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:25 AM
> Subject: RE: Antenna Tuner
>
>
> I am about the only ham on this still with the patience to help you.
> Maybe its time to give that up?
> There is nothing negative about reality.
> With a very limited surface area and a shielded feedline to absorb the
> reflected signal, in what world is saying a half wave ten meter dipole is
> not going to work on a lower band, say 75 meters.
> Truth is truth, you don't have much choice about it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 8:43 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Antenna Tuner
>
> Wow
> mister negative.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "howard kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "'Glenn / Lenny'" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 8:24 AM
> Subject: RE: Antenna Tuner
>
>
> A half wave on what frequency?
> What are you going to feed it with?
> If you are trying to use a ten meter coax fed half wave on lower bands, good
> luck!!!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:54 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Antenna Tuner
>
> I am planning on building a half-wave antenna.
> So in a case like that I will need a tuner when switching bands.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Antenna Tuner
>
>
> Glenn,
>
> This unit is way before my time, so not familiar with it.   A lot of
> guys use a "noise bridge"  to help adjust a manual tuner.   As you put
> out a low power carrier from the radio, you will  adjust one or two
> knobs (depending on the tuner) to get the SWR down.    The needle will
> be moving around a bit until you get it  to a flat SWR.   Not sure if
> the app will  be able to follow this.   When using a noise bridge,  you
> listen for a null in the sound produced by the bridge to indicate flat
> SWR.    There are other types of audio devices that generate a tone that
>    gets lower in pitch as the SWR drops.  Flat tone  means flat SWR.
>
> Again, a resonant antenna (or antennas) for the band (or bands) of
> operation will negate the need for a tuner in the first place.
>
> 73, Steve KW3A
>
> On 6/19/2015 11:47 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>> Some rigs I have looked at don't come with a tuner.
>> And I will need a reader for one, whether it is in the radio or not,
>> unless
>> it's an automatic tuner.
>> I have thought that I might be able to use the "be my eyes" app on my
>> iPhone
>> to have someone help me read it.
>> Not sure how that will go, since I need to learn how to use a tuner.
>> I just watched a youtube video on using one, but of course, I had no idea
>> of
>> which knobs he was using, compared to the unit I have.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: Antenna Tuner
>>
>>
>> Glenn,
>>
>> If you wind up with a more modern rig, it may already have a tuner in
>> it.    Always exceptions, but it has pretty much been the norm for a
>> while.
>>
>> If you are limited to 10 meters, it isn't hard to build or buy an
>> antenna resonant for the band, so a tuner wouldn't be needed at the
>> present time.
>>
>> If you use a manual tuner like this, you will need a device to help you
>> tune  it, unless  you have enough sight to read a swr meter.
>>
>> Seems  like you have all kinds of junk in your attic.  Maybe there is a
>> radio hiding up there too?
>>
>> Looks like you are itching to go.  Good luck,
>> Steve KW3A
>>
>> On 6/19/2015 11:20 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> When I get a rig, I will probably need an antenna tuner.
>>> Since I don't have a budget for that too, I went to my attic and brought
>>> down something I bought used at a Hamvention auction, about 20 years ago.
>>> I am not sure if it is an antenna tuner, so I was wondering if someone
>>> here
>>> could tell me if it is or not.
>>> It is called a Leader Antenna Coupler
>>> Model LAC 895
>>> http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/leader_antenna_coupler_lac_895_l.html
>>> On the above link, if you can see it, I believe it may have a picture of
>>> it.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>> Known  as: Glenn, Lenny, or N0YJV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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