The most likely source of the cancer that is in my lungs is my prostate
cancer.  When I was originally diagnosed with prostate cancer in September
of 2008, it had already spread into my lymph system.  I underwent a wide
excision prostatectomy, 2 months of daily radiation treatment, some chemo,
and more other treatments that I can't even recall now.  That cancer, as
well as the cancer now in my lungs, is adno carcinoma.  My point is, the
cancer in my lungs has spread from my lymph system into my lungs.  Though it
sounds odd, I don't have lung cancer, I have cancer in my lungs.  It is
enough to make ones head spin, Hi.

Alan - N7MIT



Alan R. Downing
Phoenix, AZ


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT

hmmm.
I see that old argument again. In the case of my family (both sides of =
it): those who smoked ended up with cancer 99% of the time and always =
passed before age 65. Those who did not (and the family records reveal =
this) often did not develop any cancer and had lifespans in excess of 95 =
years. Statistically speaking, this proves one point. Now, here I am 50 =
years old and I do get the biannual checkup for this (as a result of =
family history) and I show absolutely no signs of any cancer or =
precancerous issues. Mind you, this is probably only a small sample =
statistical analysis, but it does prove that smoking is a major =
contributor to cancer. Now, this might not be true for the entire =
population, but it does point to a correlation between smoking and =
cancer.

anyway, enough of that old argument. Since Alan's doctors have caught it =
in the early stages, there is hope that it can be removed or mitigated.

-eric

On Jun 21, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dave Allen wrote:

> Hi Colin!
>=20
> There sure are lots of possibilities there that could contribute.
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> I have a friend right now who has done all the most healthy things all =
her
> life, but cnacer has been detected in her liver, which isn't as =
promising as
> Alan's prognosis seems. No one deserves it; that is certain.
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> 73,
> Dave
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
> Sent: Monday, 22 June 2015 8:37 a.m.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>=20
> And even more interesting is how many people do you know that smoked =
for
> decades and never got lung or throat or any kkind of cancer?
> I'm not totally convinced that smoking causes lung cancer...though it =
is
> somewhat unhealthy.
> If smoking causes cancer, then shouldn't every smoker get it =
eventually?
> And if non-smokers get lung cancer then what causes it...I think we, =
as a
> society conclude, erroniously that smoking cigarettes causes =
cancer...it can
> I think, but it isn't like you will automatically get it, or, if you =
are an
> x smoker, and get cancer, that it was the smoking that caused it.
> And the whole concept of second hand smoke is also one of those =
erronious
> assumptions touted by media.  I expect diet and chemical laced =
environment
> have a whole lot more to do with cancer than smoking or inhailing =
second
> hand smoke does.
> If you look at countries like say Greece...the highest smoking rate =
among
> adults in the world...something like 80 percent of adults smoke.  Yet, =
they
> consistently, as a country, rate among the healthiest population in =
the
> world.  Why? diet and environment.
> America has the highest cancer rates in the world...why? Diet and
> environment.
> China has one of the highest rates of smoking for a countries =
population as
> well...yet cancer rates are no where near what they are per capita in =
the
> US.
> Anyway, I say all this because I see people jumping to the conclusion =
that
> you must have smoked or been around allot of smokers if you get lung
> cancer...there are lots and lots of chemicals and environmental =
conditions
> that, if exposed to over years, can cause it far more surely than =
smoking
> might.
> The problem of course is that we are exposed to far too many of these =
things
> so it's impossible to point at any cause...it just happens and I'm not =
sure
> anything we do in our lives can really prevent it.
> And it really sucks when it happens to anyone.
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> Hang in there Alan and posative thoughts are coming your way from the =
great
> white north.
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> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Miller
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:32 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>=20
> It's not the first time I've heard of that though. I have another =
couple
> friends who have had lung and throat cancers commonly associated with
> smoking though they never have in their lives. It's just a strange =
thing.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 1:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>=20
>=20
>> I have never smoked in my life, so it is kind of odd thatI got cancer =
in my
>> lungs.
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>> Alan - N7MIT
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:51 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>>=20
>> ouch! I had a relative that passed away from that specific cancer. He =
=3D
>> probably would still be alive if the VA hadn't misdiagnosed it as =3D
>> emphysema. Alan caught it early, so the chances are fairly good.
>>=20
>> -eric
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>> On Jun 20, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
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>>> Hello, everyone.
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> I have been corresponding back  and forth with our friend Alan =3D
>> (N7MIT),
>>> regarding various issues pertaining to learning the I phone, and I =3D=

>> requested
>>> an update on his latest health concerns.
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> Unfortunately, the news is not very good.
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> Alan has given me permission to share the news with the group.
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> To quote Alan himself:
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> "I got very bad news yesterday regarding my lung biopsy.  I have =
adno
>>> carcinoma in both lungs, and have been referred to a specialist that =
=3D
>> deals
>>> with cancer of the lung.  It sounds pretty bad, but I will fight =
it."
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> Let's all continue to keep Alan in our thoughts and prayers.
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
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>>> =3D20
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