Hi folks,
I don't do any contesting but would like to use some software for logging. Would this N1MM be capable of just plain logging or is it too heavy with contest functions.
Thanks.
73
The Other Howard, WA9RYF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 9:03 AM
Subject: Fw: N1MM+ with JAWS Screen Reader
> Part of this discussion did not appear on the Blind-hams list, so I am
> forwarding it here, in case anyone becomes interested in working with N1MM
> Plus for contest logging.
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David W Wood
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 3:42 AM
> To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'
> Subject: RE: N1MM+
>
> Hi Lloyd
>
> All this has been most helpful to me, and hopefully others on the list.
> With JFW, insert+1 reads the top line of the screen stating the same
> information as insert+T.
>
> With any new software, I always take a first look at the menu with alt+F and
> cursoring around. This I did with N1MM+ and found that the menu is not too
> different from the classic version.
>
> For spotting, I use a completely different program.
>
> To edit a previous QSO, I found that pressing alt+tab takes me into a list
> of previous QSO'S, then cursoring left and right takes me to the various
> entry fields.
>
> The really useful facility is that the user files are now separate to the
> program files, and stored, by default, in the N1MM+ folder in "my
> documents".
>
> The CW message editor from the configuration drop down is not very JAWS
> friendly, but it is possible to edit these .MC files with a text editor,
> remote from N1MM, and saving them as a different file name, if required, for
> other contests.
>
> 73
>
> David W Wood
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: N1MM+
>
> You know you are in the logging screen when the title bar (insert-T for
> JAWS) shows the rig's frequency and mode, radio name, and VFO. .
> This is the window where I suggested you use the applications key (context
> menu or shift-F10) to uncheck some of the information that clutters that
> window. Not all of the pull-down menus can be reached by an alt-letter
> combination; for some you need to arrow right or left from the Alt-C
> configuration menu or Alt-T Tools, I think. Alt-H gives you screen-specific
> help, not the whole Help menu. You can get to the Help menu by hitting
> Alt-N (for the Window menu) then arrowing right and down. The help system
> is in HTML on the web, and is heavy with hyperlinks and a good use of
> headings. There are a number of screen shots which are not well described,
> but the text is clear most of the time. It might be worthwhile to go
> through the
> keyboard help item and write everything down in Braille; I look at this list
> but I have never brailled it out.
> The log display screen has only a system menu (alt-space bar) and is
> arranged in a grid. Window-Eyes can virtualize this, and I assume JAWS
> could, also. I haven't figured out how to go from a QSO I see (which is
> likely to be off the screen) and edit that QSO. I still use ctrl-Y, ctrl-A
> or ctrl-Q for that function.
> Each day you run the program you are likely to get a prompt to install the
> newest version. You may have to do some Alt-Tabbing to get to the installer
> screen, but it works as you would expect for a program installation. There
> is a revised version almost every day.
> 73,
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David W Wood
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:35 AM
> To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'
> Subject: RE: N1MM+
>
> Hi Lloyd
>
> Well, with a bit of help from a non-radio friend, I have managed to
> communicate with the K3 and Winkey!
>
> Now to take a look at the logging!
>
> Currently though, my brain hurts!
>
> 73
>
> David W Wood
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 12:28 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: N1MM+
>
> No, I have not had sighted help with setup. But my N1MM setup has grown bit
> by bit since I started using the program in 2006 when I did not have
> anything that could be controlled by the program. I suppose I ought to try
> doing a setup from scratch and see what's going on.
> The main configuration screen is a tabbed dialog box which now has 9 tabs.
> When you open it, you are in the first tab, called Hardware, and your cursor
> is on a selection among SO1V, SO2V, and perhaps SO2R operation. Hitting Tab
> a few times brings you through OK and Cancel to the top of the box, which is
> the 9-position tab control. I think I reclassed that to be a tab control.
> Some settings must be reached with the Tab key, and there are pull-down
> menus for things like serial ports and which devices are connected to each.
> You will probably need to use the mouse pointer to find the OK button when
> you are finished making changes. It is a very busy screen, and I'm not sure
> how to advise you to proceed. I assume you listened through Kelvin Marsh's
> podcast series about N1MM and Window-Eyes; some parts of it may still apply.
> Time for me to head to work. Perhaps we could go through a little of this
> in a phone QSO on a weekend. I have never set up Skype here, but probably
> should.
> 73,
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David W Wood
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:14 AM
> To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'
> Subject: RE: N1MM+
>
> Hi Lloyd
>
> The issue is that I haven't yet been able to get to a logging screen.
> I am faltering on the initial setting up process.
> From the sound of it, you had sighted help with this?
> At the moment, I don't have that luxury from someone who knows about the
> different types of element on a page.
>
> BTW: a V.I. programmer friend had an interchange with tom a couple of years
> ago which didn't result in even any simple changes to aid accessibility.
> A great shame, as it is a fantastic program.
>
> 73
> David W Wood
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:29 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: N1MM+
>
> I have been using N1MM+ since late July under Windows 7 64-bit. I control
> an FT950 with it, and a Rotor EZ (Idiom Press) controller from its N1MMRotor
> program. You need at least XP Service Pack 3 to run it, and probably should
> have 2 GB or more of RAM. I am using it with Window-Eyes, now at version
> 9.0. I have not yet tried to set up telnet, spotting, PC-controlled keying
> or digital modes.
> For the main entry window, use the context menu key to remove as much
> extraneous information as you can. If you have used Alt-N to open some
> windows, you may need sighted help to close some of them, because the act of
> moving the mouse pointer (JAWS cursor) to find a Close graphic may cause
> focus to jump back into the entry window.
> In my setup, the rotor control program occupies one window, a log of the
> current contest occupies another, and the entry window is a third; all of
> these are accessible with Alt-Tab.
> Getting the correct field label information when you press the Tab key is a
> recurring issue, as it was in earlier N1MM. In the entry window, I use the
> Window-Eyes Field Label function on each field before starting a contest.
> If you don't do this, the callsign field will always be called TESTFOO, and
> the other fields will be labeled with a string of labels, and it will be the
> same string as you repeatedly tap the Tab key until you have cycled around
> to TESTFOO again. Once set up, your labels will stick unless some change in
> the screen layout occurs.Even if a callsign has been worked before and you
> have the correct information for him, you must press spacebar and Enter
> before the contact is logged and you can move to the next QSO.
> The configuration window where you enter station data, ports, keyers, etc.
> also suffers from problems caused by you not being sure which field you are
> entering data into. Some of the needed information is carried over when you
> load an old-version database into the program. Also, an INI file is still
> used to hold some of the configuration information.
> Having said all these negative things, I have only worked with a sighted
> person on this program once, and that was after successfully logging several
> contests and W1AW/3 operations. I would not say that the program is less
> accessible than previous versions, but the screens are definitely more
> cluttered. A close-to-standard K1EL keyer is recommended if you are goign
> to send CW with this program. Audio is handled differently, too, if you
> have been using that functionality. If possible, I would encourage you to
> work with N1MM+ and give us and the authors feedback.
> If you have questions, hopefully I will answer them more promptly than this
> one.
> 73,
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David W Wood
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:49 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: N1MM+
>
> Hi All
>
> Has anyone yet attempted to install this program?
>
> I have, using JFW 14 on an XP Pro machine.
> Although I successfully imported a database from the Classic version, and
> installed the latest version of the software, I don't seem to get any
> further with the setting it up.
>
> Thoughts, hints, and guidance welcomed!
>
> 73
>
> David W Wood
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