I purchased a slim jim antenna from N9TAX for about $23.00 and it is a great omni dual bander. No problems with repeaters over 100k away. One can build it using the following instructions: http://www.hamuniverse.com/slimjim.html or purchase one as I did from: http://2wayelectronix.com/Dual-band-2m-70cm-Slim-Jim-Antenna-dual-slim.htm I turned it into a base antenna using the following instructions: http://www.n9tax.com/Slim%20Jim%20Info.html 73s Oriano VE7 D Y Z