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Russ Kiehne <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Yes, there was no time line when it would be availible.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bob Tinney
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:14 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader

Hi,

$99.00 is a lot less than I paid for the KNFB reader software on my
Nokia N82 phone!

Also, I'm not really an apple fan.  Is the KNFB reader being developed
for the Android platform?

Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]

On 9/25/2014 10:11 AM, Alan R. Downing wrote:
> Have you looked at the price of ham gear?  Perhaps washing machines or
> refrigerators?  What major appliance or major piece of software can you 
> buy
> for $99?  I just purchased a washing machine, and I chose one that was
> closer to the bottom of the price group than the top, and it was $900 and
> change.  How about a piece of ham gear?  $1000 will hardly buy you an
> entry-level HF transceiver.  I am sorry, but $99 buys you hardly anything
> anymore.
>
> Best 73
>
>
>
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of John Miller
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:51 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>
> But you're well beyond rich as compared to 95% of the people on this list
> and in the blindness community at large. $99 is pocket change to you, or
> that's the impression you give anyway.  For me, $99 means a few missed 
> meals
>
> and a couple short changed bills for a couple months. Of course that's why
> I'll never own an IPhone in the first place, way overpriced and little if
> anything it can do I can't with my android I'll be paying on for another
> year at only a couple dollars a month added to my bill.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>
>
>> For what it does, I would say that $999 was cheap.  $99 is giving it away
>> in
>> my book.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:16 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>
>> I hope they are going to offer a demo version, perhaps one that runs for 
>> =
>> 15 mins per run or something like jaws does in demo mode, as i will not =
>> buy another reading program without a good and real world test run, as =
>> other packages have been unusable even with all the nice little fluffy =
>> reviews., also besides profit, whys the ap so expensive. it would find =
>> many more users if the price were cheaper, and they can=92t claim =
>> proprietary hardware, when it is all as mainstream asyoucan get.
>> Michael Thurman
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly <[log in to unmask]> =
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All:
>>> I=3D92m happy to hear that the news of the KNFB Reader iOS release has =
>> =3D
>>> reached this list. At the moment, the supported devices include: the 
>>> =3D=
>>> iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, 5s, 5c, and iPhone 5. We will be including =3D
>>> support for additional iDevices in the coming weeks. Regarding support =
>> =3D
>>> for the iPod Touch, the app functions quite well on the 5th generation =
>> =3D
>>> of this device as long as it is still running iOS 7.1.2. Efforts are 
>>> =3D=
>>> currently under way to optimize support for this device on iOS 8.
>>> We truly feel that the KNFB Reader is the best mobile reader we=3D92ve =
>> =3D
>>> ever created. Please feel free to check out the features and specs on =
>> =3D
>>> knfbreader.com as well as the iTunes page at: =3D
>>> =
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D8&uo=3D3D4&a=
>> t=3D3D=3D
>>> 10lJ8N=3D20
>>> An audio demonstration of the app in use is available here. =3D
>>> =
>> http://www.knfbreader.com/media/demo/audio/KNFBReader_Demonstration.mp3
>>> I am available to answer any questions off-list at: =
>> [log in to unmask]
>>> =20
>>> 73:
>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>> wrote:
>>> =20
>>>> The newer iPods have front- and rear-facing cameras.  I'm not sure =3D
>>> about=3D20
>>>> their specs, though, and have not yet heard of someone running the =3D
>>> KNFB=3D20
>>>> reader on such an iPod.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D20
>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>> =3D20
>>>> I don't know for sure, but was told my ipod has a camera, i always =
>> was
>>>> lead to believe only difference between it and an i phone was the =3D
>>> phone
>>>> part.  Now, I'm confused.
>>>> 73
>>>> Butch
>>>> WA0VJR
>>>> Node 3148
>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> It would not work on the iPods as they don't have a camera.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Shaffer" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> I don't think it works with any IPOD, just the IPhone and maybe =3D
>>> IPad, I'm
>>>>>> not sure.
>>>>>> Here's a link to the source, http://www.knfbreader.com/.
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Will it work with an Ipod 5?
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> $99.
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Robert Ringwald <[log in to unmask]> 
>>>>>>>> =3D=
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> What is the cost of this reader?
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> From: Bob Ray=3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> Yes, my wife has purchased the KNFB reader for the iphone.  It is =
>> =3D
>>> every
>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>> as good as advertised.  Yes, there is a learning curve.  Some =3D
>>> people =3D3D
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> decided that they should change settings and experiment without 
>>>>>>>> =3D=
>>> reading
>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> onboard manual.  They have had less success.  There is a real =
>> good =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>> out on applevis too.
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> Bob KD0BR
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:13 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> I may have missed conversation about this, but I am wondering if =
>> =3D
>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> bought the Kurzweil app for the Iphone.  Knowing Ray as I do, I =
>> am =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> betting
>>>>>>>> that the app is a real killer, but I'd like to see comments from =
>> =3D
>>> guys =3D3D
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have actual experience with it.  I am eligible for an upgrade to =
>> =3D
>>> either
>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Iphone 6 or 6+ with 128 Gigs, so I will probably get one of =
>> those. =3D
>>> Any
>>>>>>>> comments pro or con would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
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