Well, I don't do much pandering, and I'm not very politically correct (you 
really can't be PC if you have any sense of irreverence).  And as far as 
tolerance: live and let live works just fine for me.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: January 09, 2015 21:05
Subject: Re: scanners?


> exactly right...the original idea has long since been eaten up by
> politicising pundants who are more interested in power and influence 
> rather
> than a genuine desire to further the ideals by which the organizations are
> founded upon...kind of like government really lol.
> But, thankfully it's a free place we live in and we can choose to accept,
> follow or deny any organization we wish...unless of course that 
> organization
> is one that, due to political correctness, we must tollerate and pander 
> too.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Steve Dresser
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 6:59 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: scanners?
>
> That's the trouble with propaganda; it often overshoots the mark by 
> several
> orders of magnitude, and thus fails to make its original point.  I'm sure
> that slogan was born as an attempt to make the point that if you ever want
> to accomplish anything, you can't just sit around and complain about how
> awful blindness is, but that certainly doesn't mean that it's just a
> nuisance.  A hangnail is a nuisance, but blindness is far more than that.
> If you doubt that, just try to go to a place where no busses run when you
> can't drive a car.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: January 09, 2015 20:07
> Subject: Re: scanners?
>
>
>> 100 per cent agree on that one Alan!
>> Minimizing a disability or minimizing limitations is plain stupid and
>> unfortunately a major selling point for the biggest blindness 
>> organization
>> in the US...I'm sure it's obvious which one.
>> Yes, lets just hide from it, pretend it doesn't exist and maybe it'll go
>> away, or maybe others will treat us like sighted people...serious BS.
>> Accepting ones disability, learning to work within the limitations and
>> becoming totally comfortable in your own skin as a blind person is far
>> more
>> productive and allows one to lead a happy and successful life.
>> Pretending it's no more than a neusance only prolongs acceptance and
>> obtaining your own healthy level of self security, self confidence and
>> self
>> asteem.
>> And to keep it relatively short, living with ones own limitations, and
>> accepting the way one is and will always be is not the same thing as
>> failure, or complaicents or giving up or not trying to push those
>> limitations or boundaries...that is always healthy more or less.  A
>> Neusance
>> my foot lol.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin V A 6BKX
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Alan R. Downing
>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 5:04 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: scanners?
>>
>> Hey Butch, ain't being blind great?  I have to laugh at those poor souls
>> that really believe that being blind is a mere nuisance.  What hog wash!
>> On a scale where blindness is a mere nuisance is on one end, and a total
>> disaster on the other, blindness would be a lot closer to the disaster 
>> end
>> than a mere nuisance.
>>
>> N7MIT
>>
>>
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:57 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: scanners?
>>
>> Has anyone had any luck using radio refference with scanner programming
>> software.  I have a pro 433 with butel software and although it wasn't at
>> all speech friendly, couldn't edit any fields, I could go to radio
>> reference from within the program and down load to the scanner.  I can no
>> longer do that, comes up with combo boxes as window-eyes calls them for
>> state and I can't get anything to work. I've tried n v d a as well with 
>> no
>> success.  I sware, we kep losing accessibility on this stuff.
>> 73
>> Butch
>> WA0VJR
>> Node 3148
>> Wallace, ks.
>>
>