There was some discussion on another list I subscribe to regarding the
new TS-590SG. These guys were reporting what they have read from
supposed press releases. I don't know the validity of this data but if
true, sounds like much more than just firmware...
The first poster stated:
Several aspects of the radio are said to be improved, including the
receiver. There are several improvements but the one I was looking for
has apparently been addressed: "Spurious Emissions"
. Old TS-590S: -50dB
. New TS 590SG: -60dB
It will be interesting to see how much this improves the former problem
with broadband noise generation.
Followed by this response:
If I read it correctly, downward conversion is now used on all bands,
any time the bandwidth is less than 2.7kHz. This should improve the high
bands performance (BDR3).
>From the description of the changes made to the AGC, it appears the
problem with the electric fence sparks which Rob Sherwood has been
complaining to all companies about, has been addressed.
There is no mention of the improvement to spurious emissions. I dug that
out myself by scrutinizing the specifications.
It could be that Kenwood does not want to awaken awareness that they
ever had a problem with this. If indeed this problem is fixed, then
Kenwood will have distanced itself from Yaesu and Icom in this price class.
Those other two companies still have some homework to do.
The list price is about $2K but apparently there is an introductory
price of $1.5K.
Certainly "the heat is on" in the mid-range!
Rob K6DQ
On 10/10/2014 8:33 PM, Butch Bussen wrote:
> Perhaps, only the shadow knows. I don't think there will be a big rush
> though as much of the upgrades will also be availabloe in a firmware
> upgrade for current 590 radios. The file mentions some changes on the
> front pannel, but I had a friend look who has one and he says he doesn't
> see what that change is, so it must be minor. I suspect most changes
> will be in firmware. Should bee interesting.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2014, Steve
> Dresser wrote:
>
>> Not only will the price drop when the new radio comes out (actually, =
>> it's down from the original price already), but you'll probably see some =
>> used 590s because some people will want to upgrade.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 16:32
>> Subject: Re: ts590
>>
>>
>>> the 590 is a really really nice radio to operate too.
>>> The front pannel is well layed out with the classic kenwood thought to =
>>> convenience and function.
>>> It's kind of the sports car of HF radios at the moment...perhaps not =
>> the top=20
>>> end sports car, but operating it feels like you are working a very =
>> high end=20
>>> rig in a nice compact package.
>>> The price point is fantastic too for what you are getting.
>>> And if the upcoming update is a simple firmware thing, then there is =
>> no need=20
>>> to wait.
>>> Check into that though as you may wish to wait for the newest=20
>>> version...though the current models will drop in price as soon as the =
>> newest=20
>>> one hits the market.
>>> =20
>>> 73
>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 1:38 PM
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: ts590
>>> =20
>>>> Tnx Bob, am just exploring the possibility at present. I appreciate =
>> the
>>>> info. Jim WA6EKS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>>> From: Bob Tinney
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 12:24 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: ts590
>>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> I have not owned a TS480 so I can't say that it is that much better, =
>> but
>>>> I can say this. The variable band pass filter on both receive and
>>>> transmit is very good, the signal to noise ratio is one of the best =
>> I've
>>>> ever experienced. And if you get one of the new 590S made since Jan =
>> of
>>>> 2014, the ALC mod will have already been made. The only thing that =
>> you
>>>> might want to do is to add the SO3 TCXO crystal oscilator option. It =
>> is
>>>> only necessary if you do a lot of 6 meter ssb or cw work.
>>>>
>>>> Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2014 2:15 PM, Jim Gammon wrote:
>>>>> Bob, do you think it's worth the bother to sell my TS480 and
>>>>> upgrade to a TS590? The 480 is in perfect condition and I really
>>>>> have very few complaints with it. I have no plans to do digital
>>>>> stuff and I'm not a contester which is why I didn't buy the 590
>>>>> when first getting back into HF around 3 years ago. I'd have to
>>>>> learn a whole new radio, but it's kind of tempting if the 590 is
>>>>> that much better than the 480. 73, Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Bob Tinney <[log in to unmask]
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:04:11 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Re: ts590
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that Kenwood is coming out with an updated
>>>>> TS590SG
>>>>> next year. It will have improved digital modes and a much higher
>>>>> price. From traffic on the TS590 list, guys are guessing the
>>>>> the price
>>>>> will be around $2000. Kenwood is also planning a software update
>>>>> for
>>>>> present 590 owners. This software update will give some of the
>>>>> features
>>>>> available on the SG model. One of the new features of the
>>>>> software
>>>>> update is that the VSG1 will announce when the drive mode has
>>>>> been
>>>>> turned on. Current TS590s are selling for around $1249.00.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/9/2014 11:41 PM, Jim Gammon wrote:
>>>>> I called our local HRO last week and the manager there told me
>>>>> he
>>>>> was not aware of a "new" TS590, just some firmware updates. Not
>>>>> owning one I have no idea other than that what to ask about a
>>>>> new
>>>>> radio. Maybe someone going to Pacificon out here on the west
>>>>> coast will find out some new information. Jim WA6EKS
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Richard Fiorello <[log in to unmask]
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Date sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 21:57:10 -0400
>>>>> Subject: ts590
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi;
>>>>> Has anyone received any info as to what will be new and exciting
>>>>> in the
>>>>> ts590gs compared with the current ts-590? Also, although the
>>>>> manual is
>>>>> available, I wonder if anyone has put together any sort of
>>>>> tutorial for
>>>>> the 590. Someone did one for the ts480 which was basically a
>>>>> set
>>>>> of mp3
>>>>> files that you can download from the handihams site. It made
>>>>> getting
>>>>> started with the radio infinitely less difficult.
>>>>> Also, just have to ask, any screen reader users tried the remote
>>>>> handiham base units? The skype part of the problem should be
>>>>> manageable
>>>>> but no idea how or if the control software works. I'd have to
>>>>> play with
>>>>> Skype a bit first but who knows what the future holds.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> richard=20
>>
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