on 3 or 4 a year, I mean 3 or 4 places that email saying I didn't get the 
job. No jobs.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: hard work


> I'd say on average I apply for 20 jobs a month and of that, I might get 3 
> or
> 4 a year, usually the same 2 places but not the same jobs at those places
> who actually email when you don't get the job. All the rest, nothing. It
> makes me wonder if they even get my info sometimes but the times I asked
> they said the first screening is not usually even seen by a person so they
> couldn't tell me. Then there's my last interview where the interviewer 
> told
> me flat out if they did interviews the old way, talk to the person a bit 
> and
> make a decision, he'd have hired me. The way his company wants it, ask
> canned questions then send that through HQ and then comes the personal
> interview as round 2 after the computer filters people out, the computer
> didn't like me and there wasn't much supposedly he could do about it. Talk
> about frustrating.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Gillen" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:45 AM
> Subject: Re: hard work
>
>
>> I'm afraid I don't buy it. With everything being done online all the
>> company=
>> has to do is drop the email they received in to a watch folder when they
>> de=
>> cided they don't want to interview that person and have it automatically
>> sen=
>> d out a form letter. No more work then dropping it in the trash 
>> folder.=20
>>
>> I had an interview in London for a job that had 1100 applicants and this
>> was=
>> a specialist position.=20
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 28/09/2014, at 6:27 AM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> the reason there is less aknowledgement of a submitted resume/CV, or
>>> job=20=
>>
>>> application is because in those countries with higher unemployment 
>>> rates,
>>> a=
>> s=20
>>> in the very countries you mentioned, they get absolutely deluged with=20
>>> incoming resumes and applications for every single position.
>>> I was talking with an Irish fellow a year or so ago, and he had been
>>> in=20=
>>
>>> canada for 2 years working as an electrician.  He said back in Ireleand,
>>> h=
>> e=20
>>> applied on a Manager job at a local Burger King.  he said they got 
>>> 400=20
>>> applications on the position, and over 200 people showed up for the meet
>>> a=
>> nd=20
>>> greet session.
>>> That gives you an idea of how bad things are when a licensed schooled=20
>>> electrician is applying for a fast food job, and also that 400 people=20
>>> applied for it.
>>> So, think of it this way: you are the store or perhaps district manager
>>> fo=
>> r=20
>>> Burger King.  You need a manager at one of the stores.  You advertize
>>> onli=
>> ne=20
>>> and maybe in the local papers if you have the budget for it.  You get
>>> 400=20=
>>
>>> applications in the space of say 3 days for that one position.  You
>>> have=20=
>>
>>> yourself, and perhaps 2 other people who can process those applications
>>> an=
>> d=20
>>> make decisions on who to call back and who to ask in for an interview.
>>> Yo=
>> u=20
>>> then have to schedule interview times, and in that industry the hours
>>> are=20=
>>
>>> rediculous so you have to schedule interview times with the
>>> appropriate=20=
>>
>>> staff who can conduct the interview and do it around their particular=20
>>> schedule.  So, you can have an automated system, again, if your company
>>> ha=
>> s=20
>>> the budget for that because that requires an IT department to maintain
>>> and=
>> =20
>>> keep working...and all this for a slightly above minimum wage position.
>>> There is a cost analysis here that asks why am I paying 2 or 3 people
>>> to=20=
>>
>>> hire one person who makes less than any one of them.  Imagine trying to
>>> se=
>> nd=20
>>> out 400 email replies and how much actual time that would take.  You 
>>> have
>>> t=
>> o=20
>>> look at the application, copy down the email address and then create
>>> an=20=
>>
>>> email...even if it's a standard scripted reply, it still takes time.
>>> One person would have to work for over 13 hours with no break just to
>>> repl=
>> y=20
>>> to that many emails directly.
>>> Anyway, just food for thought and perhaps a hint as to why you often
>>> don't=
>> =20
>>> get a reply if the company doesn't have a fully automated system.
>>>=20
>>> 73
>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Scott Gillen ZL1CHM" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:30 AM
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>=20