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"Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
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Stan is also going to put up a terrific EME station.  He will have 4 11
element 70 foot boom yagis on a heavy duty H frame.  A total of 44 elements
and legal limit amps on six meters should be quite spectacular.


Alan R. Downing
Phoenix, AZ


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:55 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: ts590 and the ts 480

as Ron Says, and this is paraphrasing, it probably gets to be like shooting 
fish in a barrel.
However, if you are a contester this would be perfect.
It's all relative really.
The great thing about ham radio is that there is something for everyone from

the guy who can only scrounge and old transceiver and throw up a wire in a 
tree, to someone who has the means for a huge antenna farm, to a guy who is 
perfectly content with an HT to get into his local 2m repeater.
People will spend money on much more frivalous things than ham radio for 
sure.
Weather it's old cars, paintings, vintage instruments, a motor home they 
only use a few times a year or whatever.
Just as I thought, this guy is a self made man and sacrificed many years of 
his life in order to be where he is now.

Are you guys planning any  VHF/UHF stuff for moon bounce and satelite 
tracking etc?  or is it mostly HF?

73
Colin, V A6BKX

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From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:07 AM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: ts590  and the ts 480

> Hello Colin, Yes, Stan owned several companies over his life.  He owned a
> large construction company in CT and NY, and eventually sold it and moved 
> to
> Hawaii.  Once in Hawaii, he built what turned out to be a large modeling
> agency.  He did a lot of work for Playboy and the various beauty pagents.
> When he decided to retire several years ago, he sold that.  His wife
> meanwhile, became the largest real estate broker in HI.  So, between the 
> two
> of them, they rake in the gold, Hi.  He has owned large cabin cruisers,
> Italian sports cars, and pretty much anything else that caught his fancy. 
> I
> will report back to the list as the station is under construction 
> beginning
> next spring.  It will take several months to get all 8 towers up and
> populated.  We have designed a very robust station, lots of towers, stacks
> of yagis, and rigs in the shack.  We are over $150 grand so far, with 
> still
> a lot more to go.
>
> Alan
>
>
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:45 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: ts590 and the ts 480
>
> Stan souneds like a guy who probably worked 14 hour days for many many 
> years
>
> building a business, then sold it off for big money and now has time to 
> play
>
> with his well deserved reward.
> No doubt he probably went long stretches of time with some old dusty rig 
> and
>
> a wire antenna because he couldn't afford more and didn't have time for
> more.
> I can't wait to hear his big signal on the bands once he gets that super
> station set up.
> It's always a pleasure listening to and talking to those kinds of guys who
> get to try everything and offer their enlightened experiences.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 6:15 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: ts590  and the ts 480
>
>> Not only is he spontaneous, but rich.  I don't understand why he's =
>> selling one 990 if he's going to buy another one.  Kind of reminds me of 
>> =
>> the guy who trades in his Rolls Royce for a new one because the ash =
>> trays are getting dusty.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 19:40
>> Subject: Re: ts590 and the ts 480
>>
>>
>>> Steve, Stan is plenty familiar with Flex radios as he currently owns 3 =
>> of
>>> them.  He owns the 6700 of course, but he also owns 2 Flex 5000A's.  =
>> When he
>>> buys radios and accessories, he often buys 2 or 3 of them, just so he =
>> has
>>> backups.  A few days back, he told me that he was going to buy another =
>> 990,
>>> even though he will ship the current one to me before the move.  He is =
>> as
>>> spontaneous a guy that I have ever run into.  In any event, I will get =
>> one
>>> from him prior to the move, which is the important thing, Hi.
>>>=20
>>> Alan
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Alan R. Downing
>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Steve Dresser
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:37 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: ts590 and the ts 480
>>>=20
>>> Alan,
>>>=20
>>> Glad to hear that about the 990.  I'm not surprised about your friend =
>> =3D
>>> using the 990 more than the Flex; it takes a lot of work and =3D
>>> experimentation to get those radios going, and unless you really like =
>> =3D
>>> that kind of playing around, it's just easier to grab something like =
>> the =3D
>>> 990 and start having fun.  I hope you'll give us a detailed report =
>> when =3D
>>> you get the 990.  I'll try not to drool too much.
>>>=20
>>> Steve
>>>=20
>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 17:03
>>> Subject: Re: ts590 and the ts 480
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> Teve,=3D20
>>>>=3D20
>>>> my friend Stan in Hawaii that will be erecting his superstation in =
>> =3D
>>> Florida
>>>> next spring, is going to sell me his 990 before he moves.  Originally =
>> =3D
>>> he was
>>>> going to sell me the 990 right away, but when he had to return his =
>> =3D
>>> Flex 6700
>>>> to the factory for warranty repairs, he began using the 990 as his =
>> =3D
>>> main
>>>> radio.  He likes it so much that he said that he would like to use it =
>> =3D
>>> until
>>>> the move, and I said no problem, I am not in any hurry.  With his =
>> 6700 =3D
>>> back
>>>> home again, he is still using the 990 more than the Flex.  Stan has =
>> =3D
>>> had
>>>> every one of the premium rigs, and says that the 990 is the best of =
>> =3D
>>> the
>>>> bunch.  He really loves to use it, particularly on the digital modes.
>>>>=3D20
>>>> Alan
>>>>=3D20
>>>>=3D20
>>>>=3D20
>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>=3D20
>>>>=3D20
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>> On Behalf Of Steve Dresser
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:43 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: ts590 and the ts 480
>>>>=3D20
>>>> Alan,
>>>>=3D20
>>>> I hadn't thought of it, but I can see why you'd want a dedicated =
>> radio =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> for 6 meters.  Now that I have a 590, I probably wouldn't want to go =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> back to using a 480 exclusively on HF, but I have the luxury of being =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> able to make that choice.  That said, though, I'd love to have a 990 =
>> =3D
>>> if =3D3D
>>>> I could justify it, but I can't, based on the way I operate.  Still, =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> it's nice to dream.
>>>>=3D20
>>>> Steve
>>>>=3D20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
>>>> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 15:00
>>>> Subject: Re: ts590 and the ts 480
>>>>=3D20
>>>>=3D20
>>>>> Steve, I use my 480 on six meters only.  Since six opening are so =
>> =3D3D
>>>> rare, you
>>>>> almost have to have a rig on the calling frequency so you will hear
>>>>> activity.  Though the 480 is best used as a mobile rig, I have found =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> it to
>>>>> be suitable as my six meter only radio.  I set the output for about =
>> =3D
>>> 50
>>>>> watts, which drives my amp to about 1300 watts.  I don't think that =
>> I =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> would
>>>>> want to rely on the 480 for my main HF rig, because of its =3D3D
>>>> limitations.
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Steve Dresser
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 11:43 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: ts590 and the ts 480
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> Having had both radios, there are definite differences between the =
>> =3D
>>> 480 =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> and the 590.  Although the 480 can be used as a base station, it is =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> essentially a mobile radio meant for use in a vehicle.  Because of =
>> =3D
>>> the =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> radio's size, the internal tuner is not as good as the internal =
>> tuner =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> in =3D3D3D
>>>>> the 590 because there's not enough space to house all the capacitors =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> and =3D3D3D
>>>>> inductors needed to handle higher SWRs.
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> The DSP and filters are better in the 590 because they are in the IF =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> rather than the AF stages, which means that they do their work at =
>> the =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> point where the signal enters the radio instead of at the end of the =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> line.
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> The transmit audio is also less restricted in the 590, going out to =
>> 3 =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> KHz instead of 2.4 KHz as in the 480.
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> Please understand, I'm not criticizing the 480.  In fact, if it was =
>> =3D
>>> my =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> only choice, I'd live with it very happily.  I'm just pointing out =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> that =3D3D3D
>>>>> there are some differences between the two radios, and depending on =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> your =3D3D3D
>>>>> choice of operating modes, they may become important enough to =3D3D
>>>> upgrade.  =3D3D3D
>>>>> If you're thinking of buying a 590 and you want a new one, now is =
>> the =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> time to get one.
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D3D20
>>>>> From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:35
>>>>> Subject: ts590 and the ts 480
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>>=3D3D20
>>>>>> Hi everyone;
>>>>>> I've been rather surprised that some don't feel the 590 is =3D3D3D
>>>>> significantly=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> better than the ts480.  For 1200 I could have talked myself into =
>> =3D3D
>>>> one=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> while the price lasts and hope that my antenna issues =
>> resolve=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> themselves.  I do own a 480 and although its a nice radio I find =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> things=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> a bit crowded.  Its trivial but the buttons are a bit small.  Also =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> I=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> would have expected the dsp on the 590 to be significantly better.  =
>> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>> Does=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> the 590 use the scheme as the 480 in that the same button can do =
>> =3D3D
>>>> a=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> number of things depending upon how long you press it?  Still =3D3D
>>>> holding=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> out for that nice acre of land.
>>>>>>=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> --=3D3D3D20
>>>>>> richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> 

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