If I buy a Ts590, which looks possible because a friend, and 
local ham has one he is willing to sell me.  I would be 
interested in selling my TS480 and would certainly advertise it 
here before anywhere else.  Jim WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:53:52 -0700
Subject: Re: ts590

I doubt if you'll see much more of a price drop on new ones, 
dealers
are already told the 590 is no longer in production, the g is 
supposed
to come in November I think.  I think I paid $1600 for mine,  so 
$1250
is a good deal, and as you suggest, used should be even less, 
although
you have to watch out for the alc mod on used gear.  Kenwood is 
doing
this mod free, even if you're not the original owner, but you'd 
have to
send it in.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Fri, 10 Oct 2014, Colin McDonald wrote:

 the 590 is a really really nice radio to operate too.
 The front pannel is well layed out with the classic kenwood 
thought to
 convenience and function.
 It's kind of the sports car of HF radios at the moment...perhaps 
not the top
 end sports car, but operating it feels like you are working a 
very high end
 rig in a nice compact package.
 The price point is fantastic too for what you are getting.
 And if the upcoming update is a simple firmware thing, then 
there is no need
 to wait.
 Check into that though as you may wish to wait for the newest
 version...though the current models will drop in price as soon 
as the newest
 one hits the market.

 73
 Colin, V A6BKX
 --------------------------------------------------
 From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 1:38 PM
 To: <[log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: ts590

 Tnx Bob,  am just exploring the possibility at present.  I 
appreciate the
 info.  Jim WA6EKS


 -----Original Message-----
 From: Bob Tinney
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 12:24 PM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: ts590

 Jim,

 I have not owned a TS480 so I can't say that it is that much 
better, but
 I can say this.  The variable band pass filter on both receive 
and
 transmit is very good, the signal to noise ratio is one of the 
best I've
 ever experienced.  And if you get one of the new 590S made since 
Jan of
 2014, the ALC mod will have already been made.  The only thing 
that you
 might want to do is to add the SO3 TCXO crystal oscilator 
option.  It is
 only necessary if you do a lot of 6 meter ssb or cw work.

 Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]

 On 10/10/2014 2:15 PM, Jim Gammon wrote:
 Bob, do you think it's worth the bother to sell my TS480 and
 upgrade to a TS590? The 480 is in perfect condition and I really
 have very few complaints with it.  I have no plans to do digital
 stuff and I'm not a contester which is why I didn't buy the 590
 when first getting back into HF around 3 years ago.  I'd have to
 learn a whole new radio, but it's kind of tempting if the 590 is
 that much better than the 480.  73, Jim

   ----- Original Message -----
 From: Bob Tinney <[log in to unmask]
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date sent: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:04:11 -0400
 Subject: Re: ts590

 Hi Jim,

 My understanding is that Kenwood is coming out with an updated
 TS590SG
 next year.  It will have improved digital modes and a much 
higher
 price.   From traffic on the TS590 list, guys are guessing the
 the price
 will be around $2000.  Kenwood is also planning a software 
update
 for
 present 590 owners.  This software update will give some of the
 features
 available on the SG model.  One of the new features of the
 software
 update is that the VSG1 will announce when the drive mode has
 been
 turned on.  Current TS590s are selling for around $1249.00.

 Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]

 On 10/9/2014 11:41 PM, Jim Gammon wrote:
   I called our local HRO last week and the manager there told me
 he
   was not aware of a "new" TS590, just some firmware updates.  
Not
   owning one I have no idea other than that what to ask about a
 new
   radio.  Maybe someone going to Pacificon out here on the west
   coast will find out some new information.  Jim WA6EKS

     ----- Original Message -----
   From: Richard Fiorello <[log in to unmask]
   To: [log in to unmask]
   Date sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 21:57:10 -0400
   Subject: ts590

   Hi;
   Has anyone received any info as to what will be new and 
exciting
   in the
   ts590gs compared with the current ts-590?  Also, although the
   manual is
   available, I wonder if anyone has put together any sort of
   tutorial for
   the 590.  Someone did one for the ts480 which was basically a
 set
   of mp3
   files that you can download from the handihams site.  It made
   getting
   started with the radio infinitely less difficult.
   Also, just have to ask, any screen reader users tried the 
remote
   handiham base units?  The skype part of the problem should be
   manageable
   but no idea how or if the control software works.  I'd have to
   play with
   Skype a bit first but who knows what the future holds.

   --
   richard