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And under development for years and now (or soon) is the German 
Hilberling Gmb PT-8000 which is somewhere between seventeen and twenty 
thousand dollars. Probably doesn't talk either...

Rob
K6DQ

On 9/29/2014 12:23 PM, Alan R. Downing wrote:
> The Kenwood 990 is far from the most expensive radio on the market.  The
> Icom 7800 and Yaesu 9000Mp were both over $12000 in their hay day.
>
>
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:51 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Accessible transceivers
>
> I never said he should not have the radio! what I fucking get tired of =
> is the cheap at wife the price bullshit  and jumping into a thread =
> saying I am  bitchigna nd moaning when al i was doing was telling the =
> poster that there are a lot of reasonably priced radios out there, when =
> allen threw out the most expensive rig he could think of. I would =
> fucking kill for a 990 but i will never spend that much for a radio  or =
> at least not in the foreseeable future. If I won the lottery or =
> something then rob ably I would.
> Wh te fucking hell  doe she or you think you are for trashing me because =
> I put information out there that does not scream throw money at it.
> If i had the income to throw money at ham radio i wouldn=92t need to =
> care about making contacts. In fact i think I have as much fun with my =
> ts2000 as allen has with his top notch radio and towers and antennas.
> And as for the comments about him having ancer, going into remission and =
> stuff that is awesome. Noone is happier that he dodged the bullt than I =
> am, but unfortunately it did not seem t make him any happier of a =
> person, if he  can not resist rubbing our noses in the fact that he has =
> more money.
> Michael Thurman
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
>
>> oh give me a break...really, beyond us working stiffs? lol
>> I have 10 grand in guitars and amps and pedals sitting in my living =
> room,=20
>> and another 5G in sound equipment...I pay almost 17 grand a year just =
> in=20
>> house rent so I can use my equipment properly...and I'm a working =
> stiff.
>> So as a working stiff, if i really truly wanted a 9 thousand dollar =
> ham=20
>> radio to go along with my other 3 HF rigs and multiple handhelds and =
> mobiles=20
>> and crap, then I would go and get it by saving some cash and whatever =
> else.
>> I don't want a 9 grand radio because it's not going to give me any =
> more=20
>> satisfaction than a 2 grand radio will.
>> But there is this upside down concept that you can never afford the =
> toys you=20
>> want.  That's crap because if you really want them, then you get them.
>> Lot's of people who make little money own cars worth 10's of thousands =
> of=20
>> dollars....we as blind people don't typically need a car, so why not a =
> 10=20
>> thousand dollar radio? it's actually cheaper than your average new or =
> recent=20
>> model car.
>> And if you can get a car loan, you can get a loan to buy a radio too.
>> But, again, what are your priorities in life...
>> I think it's really cool that someone, blind or otherwise, can be=20
>> comfortable enough that he can put money towards a TS990, or an =
> IC7800, big=20
>> antennas and tall towers and a nice piece of land to put it all =
> on...why=20
>> not?  Doesn't make him more fortunate.
>> You can have all the money in the world, and still get cancer and =
> die...or=20
>> you can have no money and get cancer and go into remission and that is =
> worth=20
>> more than anything in life.
>> Anyway, this is beginning to feel like beating a dead horse, but I =
> just am=20
>> so sick and tired of the whiny little comments when ever allan or =
> someone=20
>> else brings up a radio like the ts990 or IC7800 or something...there =
> is this=20
>> instant blubbering from a certain set of people that just gets =
> irritating=20
>> after a while.
>> Not pointing fingers, but you know who you are.
>> =20
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Matthew Chao" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:48 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Accessible transceivers
>> =20
>>> Amen to that one.  $1500 is quite a bit for any radio.  8
>>> grand?  Well, that's beyond us working sitffs.--Matt, N1IBB.
>>> =20
>>> At 04:31 PM 9/27/2014, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>>> yes if you are rich enough to pay  8 grand for the 990. There are a =
> lot =3D
>>>> of usable radios out there of those who are on a shoestring budget, =
> and =3D
>>>> there are often good deals on used equipment as well. The 990 I am =
> sure =3D
>>>> is an incredible radio, but for us mortals don=3D92t think that you =
> have =3D
>>>> to morgtage our house and sell your children to get an enjoyable =
> radio.
>>>> Michael Thurman
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Alan R. Downing <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>>> Butch can probably tell you more about the Kenwood 480, 590, and =
> 990.=20
>>>>> =3D
>>>> The
>>>>> 990 is supposed to be the best rig ever in terms of speech output =3D=
>>>> covering
>>>>> everything, including all menus.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:01 PM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Accessible transceivers
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Is there any information on any accessible HF radio's with speech =3D=
>>>> output?
>>>>> An=3D3D
>>>>> d if so, are they all as expensive as the  Kenwood ts2000?  I want =
> to =3D
>>>> be
>>>>> abl=3D3D
>>>>> e to turn into the seven MHz things and WWB and things of that =
> nature,=20
>>>>> =3D
>>>> but
>>>>> a=3D3D
>>>>> ll I have is an ht of the wouxung variety. And that's not going to =
> be =3D
>>>> able
>>>>> t=3D3D
>>>>> o let me Tune In to Morse code and things. Thanks!
>>>>> Joe Quinn kd0ess=3D3D=20

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