I am using Window-Eyes 8.4, and did a little testing with NVDA 2014.
Some of the big multi-ops like W3LPL are now using Wintest, and I have no
idea how its accessibility stacks up. With N1MM and N1MM+, one of the most
important problems you need to solve is getting the correct information
about whatever field you have tabbed into, whether it's in actual logging,
setup, or whatever. Window-Eyes has a Field Label hotkey to help with this,
but it needs to be reeducated each time you are in a different screen
configuration. For the Entry window this only takes a couple of minutes.
For the Configurer screen that is a tabbed dialog box with 8 tabs and many
grid views, I don't think there is a good 100% solution. I have not written
any scripts yet, nor have I used the Hotspot script, which would probably be
useful in some situations. There is a lot more to say, but it's time to
head for work.
Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David W Wood
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 3:12 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'
Subject: RE: Accessible logging programs
Lloyd
That is interesting about Bill.
I didn't get on with TR4win with JFW, nor NVDA.
Which screen reader are you using?
73
David W Wood
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 4:38 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Accessible logging programs
I am one of the people who uses N1MM, and am now participating in the
public beta of N1MM Plus. Depending on your needs, you need to do some
screen reader customization to get good results out of the N1MM programs. I
have not tried driving a braille display while in the N1MM entry window; I
expect it would at least show the field you are currently in. In the N1MM
Plus program, I have found 3 or 4 bugs which were subsequently fixed, but
none of these related to screen reader performance. What you use will
depend on how seriously you want to do contesting and what your fellow hams
are familiar with.
K4LTA, an active blind contester and DXer from Tennessee, uses TR4Win with
an old version of Window-Eyes, because he, also was familiar with TR4DOS. I
started out using CT for DOS, and was using that program by 1989.
73,
Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David W Wood
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 6:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Accessible logging programs
Ian
Some like Whitestick log, but this is not geared toward contesting.
Others like N3FJP but, frankly, I don't get on with it.
Beyond those, you have to make accessibility compromises.
In some instances, I still use TrLog which is written for DOS and I use it
on a DOS machine.
I, and others, also use N1MM (now classic) but I haven't tried the new
version of it.
Before installations onto your new machine, why not ghost your current HDD
and try a few in order to evaluate them for yourself?
No doubt others will make further input.
73
David W Wood
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Ian Westerland
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Accessible logging programs
Hello everyone.
Some time ago there was a lot of discussion about accessible logging
programs. At the time I wasn't looking for one but am about to buy a
LapTop computer specifically for radio related activities.
I have the "White Stick Log" and want a good alternative that might
help with contesting.
What are the latest accessible programs please?
I use Window-Eyes latest version and Windows 7.
73
Ian Westerland
VK3vin
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