I too wish there were a demo, but if you are that concerned, just watch and
wait.
However, it will work on a 5c if it works on a 5.
It does work on a 5, as I have it working right now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
> and you are bang on there Alan.
> I couldn't agree more with that statement.
> However, there is some serious doubt cast upon the apps functionality
> given
> different devices, and while $99 is more than worth it if the app is
> valuable to you, it is nothing more than a rather extravagant waste of
> resources if it is not functional, and totally functional without issues
> for
> that price.
> The worth of something is how much a person values it and is willing to
> pay
> for it. Personally I would pay the $99 if I new there was no doubt as to
> it's functionality, but we have heard that there are issue with IOS8, and
> issues with phones other than the 5S or 6/6+ and with other IOS
> devices...so
> that tells me that there is a very real possibility that the app may not
> function 100 per cent on my device and that is what I have an issue with
> not
> having the option to recoop my investment if the product does not meet the
> value implicit in the purchase.
> It's like anything else. If you buy a very expensive radio or amplifier
> expecting it to work, and it gets to you and it doesn't work as
> advertized,
> or only has 10 per cent output do you just say, well, this is a very
> powerful amplifier, and the builder is just trying his best to help out
> the
> average ham out there, so I'm not going to expect my money returned to me
> for the unit because the potential is so high for it to be great. That
> would be rediculous in the extreme right? So how is this app any
> different
> from that? Especially when hundreds of thousands of apps have a demo or
> free trial version where you can make sure you like it firstly, and that
> it
> works for you secondly. This is a consumer market not a developer market.
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:28 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>
>> My only comment on this particular subject is that $99 is an incredible
>> bargain for a powerful piece of software. The return on investment for
>> this
>> app is incredible if you ask me.
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:17 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>
>> and when you say braving the new frontier you mean paying the
>> non-refundable
>>
>> $99 to try it out and just hope it works right?
>> Since unlike almost every single IOS app out there, the KNFB reader does
>> not
>>
>> have a free trial of any kind to insure that the app works on your device
>> correctly before purchasing the fully functional version.
>> I'd like to know that this works on my 5C with IOS7.11, but I'm
>> definitely
>> not going to pay 99 bucks to find out it doesn't work well...
>> My loss I know, but it's rediculous in this erra of free trial periods or
>> demo apps to ask for some one to pay fully for an app without insuring
>> that
>> you like and will get use from the app before purchasing
>> Unless I missed something about a refund of your purchase if the app
>> doesn't
>>
>> function correctly with your device?
>> Sorry, I'm not being a negative nancy here, but every other serious app
>> developer out there offers their product on a trial basses first, most
>> especially the more expensive apps.
>> And it means zero to me that this product with the simbian operating
>> system
>> and nokia phone was $1700plus originally.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Hai Nguyen Ly" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:40 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>
>>> Hi Martin:
>>> We are planning on eventually supporting the iPads due to the popularity
>>> =
>>> of these devices in the education space. Whereas the iPhones have great
>>> =
>>> cameras and include a flash, all of the iPads have yet to gain a flash.
>>> =
>>> I=92ve managed to get the app to function quite nicely on an iPad Mini =
>>> with iOS 7.1.2. We would love your feedback should you decide to brave =
>>> the iPad frontier with us.
>>>
>>> 73:
>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Martin G. McCormick =
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What about an IPad running IOS7? Judging from the
>>>> nomenclature and IOS version, an IPad seems like it should also
>>>> be able to run KNFB Reader, but I would like to know first
>>>> before finding out the hard way that it doesn't.
>>>>=20
>>>> Thank you.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> 73
>>>> Martin
>>>> Hai Nguyen Ly writes:
>>>>> With this being said, the KNFB Reader app will function quite well on
>>>>> =
>>> an =3D
>>>>> iPod Touch 5th generation as long as you are running a variant of iOS
>>>>> =
>>> 7. =3D
>>>>> There are currently some issues being investigate with regard to UI
>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>>> latency on this device running iOS 8. If you wish to install the app =
>>> on =3D
>>>>> an iPod 5th generation with iOS 7, I would not upgrade the device to =
>>> iOS =3D
>>>>> 8 until we release the update to fix the latency issues. Please use =
>>> the =3D
>>>>> following link to download the app. =3D
>>>>> =
>>>
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D8&uo=3D3D4&a=
>>> t=3D3D=3D
>>>>> 10lJ8N
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 73:
>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>>> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Mine says 7.11. It says I can upgrade to 8.0 which I haven't done
>>>>>> =3D=
>>>
>>>>> yet.
>>>>>> Are you saying I should not if I want the reader?
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> On=3D20
>>>>>> Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> The easiest way to determine your iOS version is to navigate to
>>>>>>> =3D3D=
>>>
>>>>>>> Settings/general/About.
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> How can I tell which operating system I have on my Ipod? I hope I
>>>>>>>> =
>>> =3D
>>>>> can=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> get the link out all of those equals 20s.
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Hai Nguyen=3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Ly wrote:
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> All:
>>>>>>>>> I=3D3D3D92m happy to hear that the news of the KNFB Reader iOS =3D
>>>>> release =3D3D
>>>>>>> has =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> reached this list. At the moment, the supported devices include: =
>>> =3D
>>>>> the =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, 5s, 5c, and iPhone 5. We will be =
>>> including =3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> support for additional iDevices in the coming weeks. Regarding =
>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> support =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch, the app functions quite well on the 5th =3D3D
>>>>>>> generation =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> of this device as long as it is still running iOS 7.1.2. Efforts =
>>> =3D
>>>>> are =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> currently under way to optimize support for this device on iOS 8.
>>>>>>>>> We truly feel that the KNFB Reader is the best mobile reader =3D
>>>>> we=3D3D3D92ve =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> ever created. Please feel free to check out the features and =
>>> specs =3D
>>>>> on =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> knfbreader.com as well as the iTunes page at: =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D
>>>>> =
>>>
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D3D3D8&uo=3D3=
>>> D3D3=3D
>>>>> D4&a=3D3D
>>>>>>> t=3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> 10lJ8N=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> An audio demonstration of the app in use is available here.
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D=
>>>
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D
>>>>> =
>>> http://www.knfbreader.com/media/demo/audio/KNFBReader_Demonstration.mp3
>>>>>>>>> I am available to answer any questions off-list at: =3D3D
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> The newer iPods have front- and rear-facing cameras. I'm not =
>>> sure =3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> about=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> their specs, though, and have not yet heard of someone running =
>>> the =3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> KNFB=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> reader on such an iPod.
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>>>>>>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know for sure, but was told my ipod has a camera, i =
>>> always =3D
>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> lead to believe only difference between it and an i phone was =
>>> the =3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>>>> part. Now, I'm confused.
>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> It would not work on the iPods as they don't have a camera.
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jim Shaffer" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it works with any IPOD, just the IPhone and =
>>> maybe =3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> IPad, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a link to the source, http://www.knfbreader.com/.
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Will it work with an Ipod 5?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $99.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Robert Ringwald =3D
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the cost of this reader?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Bob Ray=3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, my wife has purchased the KNFB reader for the iphone. =
>>> It =3D
>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> is =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as good as advertised. Yes, there is a learning curve. =
>>> Some =3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> people =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided that they should change settings and experiment =3D
>>>>> without =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onboard manual. They have had less success. There is a =
>>> real =3D
>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> good =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on applevis too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob KD0BR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may have missed conversation about this, but I am =
>>> wondering =3D
>>>>> if =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Kurzweil app for the Iphone. Knowing Ray as I =
>>> do, =3D
>>>>> I =3D3D
>>>>>>> am =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> betting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the app is a real killer, but I'd like to see comments =
>>> =3D
>>>>> from =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> guys =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have actual experience with it. I am eligible for an =
>>> upgrade =3D
>>>>> to =3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iphone 6 or 6+ with 128 Gigs, so I will probably get one of =
>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>> those. =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments pro or con would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
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>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> =3D20
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