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Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:00:58 -0600
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maybe some day these guys will be able to implement provoice into a 
scanner...until then I'm stuck with commercial portibles off ebay...not so 
bad since they make one hell of a good scanner lol.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
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From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:23 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: PSR Edit

> Sounds good Ron, I mainly use WindowEyes, but have JAWS 11,or is it 12, 
> not
> sure.  Should be around this weekend.  73 and thanks, Jim WA6EKS
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Ron Miller
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: PSR Edit
>
> Hi Jim,
> Though I have addressed some of this in my post to the list, maybe we can
> get together on SKYPE, since I don't yet have antennas up. Perhaps on a
> weekend?
>
> Ron Miller
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:34 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: PSR Edit
>
> Ron, I would also like to know how you are using PSR Edit.  I have only
> poked around a bit with it but mainly use it to upload files sent from a
> friend.  Jim WA6EKS
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Ron Miller <[log in to unmask]
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Date sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:27:13 -0400
>>Subject: Re: accessible scanners
>
>>Hi  ,
>>Yes it does decode P25.
>
>>Also, Jim, I am most definitely not saying that we should
> discourage Whistle=
>>r from designing accessibility features into their scanner
> receivers.  Quite t=
>>he contrary, I am all for it.  In fact, I had begun a dialog with
> the folks a=
>>t GRE America on this very subject.
>
>>The intent of my post was simply to respond to a previous message
> about Whis=
>>tler's current scanner line and to say that I'm successfully
> using the PSR-5=
>>00 along with PSREdit and the Whistler version of this scanner
> should be equ=
>>ally usable.
>
>>BTW, Russ, if we can work out a time, I would be glad to chat
> with you about=
>> how I use PSREdit.
>
>>73,
>
>>Ron Miller
>>N6MSA
>
>>Ron Miller
>
>>> On Aug 14, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Russ Kiehne <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Does the psr500 do p25?
>>>=20
>>>> On 8/13/2014 8:42 PM, Jim Gammon wrote:
>>>> Ron, how do you deal with the scanner when the display says nothing
>>>> enabled? I really think they could do a better job, even with the
>>>> beeps.  I have owned a PSR500 scanner since 2010, and, while I can
>>>> work it, I have never figured out how to use PSR
> Edit
>>>> to program it, even when a friend sends me files of frequencies
> I
>>>> want.  I can upload that file which works great, and can set the
>>>>scanner on a given talk group, but there is much that I wish I  could
>>>>do.  Given that Whistler is developing new scanners, why  should we
>>>>discourage them from making them more accessible then  they are which
>>>>is not much at all in my opinion.  Jim WA6EKS
>>>>=20
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Ron Miller <[log in to unmask]
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Date sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:34:26 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Re: accessible scanners
>>>>=20
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Check out the Whistler models available.  I own and very
>>>> successfully use the
>>>>> GRE PSR-500, the original version of the current Whistler
>>>> handheld.  I use
>>>>> the PSR500 Edit software and the scanner's included USB cable.
> I
>>>> can program
>>>>> the scanner and configure it exactly the way I want it to be.  I
>>>> can then use
>>>>> it very well in the field.  I find it very accessible, even
>>>> though it does
>>>>> not have speech output.  Speech is not the only way to
>>>> successfully use a
>>>>> piece of comm.  gear, so don't let the lack of speech detour
> you.
>>>>=20
>>>>> 73
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> Ron Miller
>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Matthew Chao
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:29 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: accessible scanners
>>>>=20
>>>>> Hi, Martin.  I'm looking for an accessible scanner; any current
>>>> ideas?  And
>>>>> what about using USB interfaces instead of serial ones, as many
>>>> systems no
>>>>> longer come with serial ports, and the USB-TO-serial adapters
> can
>>>> be a
>>>>> little sketcy.--Matt, N1IBB.
>>>>=20
>>>>> At 10:14 AM 8/13/2014, you wrote:
>>>>>>         Another useful feature is when one can communicate with
>>>> a
>>>>>> scanner or transceiver via serial interface.  I have two Uniden
>>>>>> scanners.  One is now eleven years old and has a rather turse
>>>> command
>>>>>> set that one can access via a terminal program much the way you
>>>> can
>>>>>> access one of the old telephone dial-up modems.  All the
>>>> characters must
>>>>>> be upper case and all the replies are also in upper case but you
>>>> can
>>>>>> read the display, setup trunking systems, etc.  The only problem
>>>> is that
>>>>>> the Motorola SmartZone trunking is now unusable since the new
>>>> rebanded
>>>>>> frequency plans can not be fed in to the scanner as a flash
>>>> upgrade
>>>>>> since the
>>>>>> bc780 does not have that capability.
>>>>>>         It is, however, accessible since the command set and
>>>> responses
>>>>>> are all plain ASCII text.
>>>>>>         That sort of access is much appreciated.  I also have
>>>> another
>>>>>> Uniden which was made around 2008.  It does P25 and the new
>>>> rebanded
>>>>>> Motorola trunking just fine.
>>>>>>         It also has an ASCII command set and is potentially
>>>> totally
>>>>>> accessible but one needs to either be running one of the Windows
>>>>>> programs that talk to your scanner or you must be willing to
>>>> write your
>>>>>> own communications program in C or perl.  I am a Linux user so
>>>> that is
>>>>>> kind of par for the course.
>>>>>>         For the BCD996 and the BCD396, the commands and
>>>> responses are
>>>>>> still ASCII but they use CSV or Comma-Separated Variable
> strings.
>>>> These
>>>>>> are sometimes hugely long lines of text in which each field is
>>>>>> separated from it's neighbors by a , so a string for input or
>>>> output
>>>>>> might look like 1,01453500,1,,,3,2,7,K5SRC Stillwater
>>>> Repeater,14,0,9
>>>>>>         That is not a valid entry anywhere, but it is an example
>>>> of
>>>>>> what a CSV string looks like.  You see them all the time in
>>>> business
>>>>>> applications that may be used with spread sheets and tables.
>>>>>>         One of my next home projects is to take the C program I
>>>> wrote
>>>>>> for the BCD996 and try to re-do it in perl as I may get it to do
>>>> more
>>>>>> than it presently does.
>>>>>>         I would sure like to see more radios that have some sort
>>>> of
>>>>>> electronic input and output like the Kenwoods and several
> others.
>>>> To
>>>>>> me, that is almost as good as having speech boards in the radio
>>>> which,
>>>>>> of course, is the holy grail but may not have as much mass
> appeal
>>>> as
>>>>>> being able to interface with a serial port on a computer or
> maybe
>>>> a web
>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>         Let's hope that this period of totally inaccessible
>>>> technology
>>>>>> is ending and we just might be able to really use some of this
>>>> stuff
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>         I remember the first truly inaccessible piece of amateur
>>>> radio
>>>>>> gear I encountered.  It was in the mid seventies and was a
>>>> two-meter
>>>>>> transceiver that had an Up and Down button pair for frequency,
> no
>>>>>> direct entry and no way to get to a known state except for that
>>>> stupid
>>>>>> little LED display.  If you could even get it to start at
> 144.000
>>>> MHZ,
>>>>>> do you really want to count in 5 KHZ steps up to say, 147.925
> and
>>>> hope
>>>>>> there were no key bounces or missed presses?
>>>>>>         The guy in the store said, I don't think there is any
>>>> way you
>>>>>> can use that and he was absolutely right.  Don't you just hate
>>>> that?
>>>>=20
>>>>>> 73 Martin McCormick WB5AGZ
>>>>=20
>>>>>> Jim Gammon writes:
>>>>>>>     John, I have been corresponding with the Whistler group
>>>>>>> regarding there trunked scanners.  Thought you would like to
>>>> read
>>>>>>> the latest.  Jim
>>>> .
>>>>=20 

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